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I'm looking for a way to build a sidecar and subframe for my 02volusia. My back is getting bad and I don't want to stop ridding.. My brother has a tig/mig/plasma rig....
1. Do I need a subframe for my bike or can it be built to be a bolt on.
2. How to rig up the brake system.
3. I want to be able to remove it too.


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You should not need a subframe. The brake system will most likely utilize the foot pedal for the rear drum and create a link rod to the outside wheel drum. Look at Cozy sidecar or Inder car for examples.
 

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Member "Ronnie" put a hack on his Vol and there is a write-up with pics here some where.............................
 

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Actually, any bike made after about 1968 needs a subframe. Motorcycle frames are not built any longer to withstand sidecar attachment points. Also, being a real.wet blanket, you cannot build a sidecar rig safely and have an easily removed chair. My first rig was a BMW with a subframe. The subframe would have made.solo.use impossible. Also, proper sidecar setup takes about a day. If you do not align the chair properly... Well, that's not good. Next, the changes to the steering column make conversion.difficult. I am a long time sidecar rider. My advice is to not attempt conversion. To do.it right is a 10000 dollar job (leading link, brakes, lights, chair, subframe). You can buy a brand new rig for less than that. Finally, sidecar rigs are not easy to drive, they require a lot of back and upper body strength, especially if you don't have a leading link suspension. Without.a.leading link it's really hard. After all the work, a used Ural can be found for 6 grand and its.ready to go. I think the trike conversion is a better route if you are dealing with health issues.
 

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I bought my whole first rig for less than $3000. Even my first BMW rig was only $3999! something to consider before undertaking a conversion.
 

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Here's pics of my hacks over the last 10 years Land vehicle Vehicle Motorcycle Motorcycling Motor vehicle
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I saw this company on eBay. They are located in Vietnam. They overhaul old 750 BMW's, paint the bikes OD Green, add reverse and a sidecar. They look awesome and they're only 5,000...

But I was talking with wiggles about this... out of country, import/duty fees?, who knows what else.

I wonder if they're still around.
 

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Tks Mr E I read your 24/2000 nice write up


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Why is it that the Ural at 40 hp is considered underpowered for a hack, but a C50 at 40 hp is somehow better suited? Just wondering????
 

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Why is it that the Ural at 40 hp is considered underpowered for a hack, but a C50 at 40 hp is somehow better suited? Just wondering????
Just my opinion, not necessarily yours. Ural has 4 forward gears instead of 5 and 100+ more pounds. These contribute to the sluggishness in my opinion, not necessarily yours. FWIW, I also consider the C50 somewhat underpowered. And I would not consider putting a sidecar on a C50, either.
 

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I saw this company on eBay. They are located in Vietnam. They overhaul old 750 BMW's, paint the bikes OD Green, add reverse and a sidecar. They look awesome and they're only 5,000...

But I was talking with wiggles about this... out of country, import/duty fees?, who knows what else.

I wonder if they're still around.

Unfortunately, those bikes are a disaster. They are using ChiangJang bikes, they do not use BMWs. They take a Chiang Jang, horseshoe in a rebuilt BMW airhead motor and ship them off.... For 15000 bucks. They are the worst motorcycles perhaps ever made....

For 15,000 I could get an old airhead and have a proper conversion done, a much better prospect.

Ural is the only real option right now for buying a ready made rig. Conversions are very expensive.
 

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I might consider a Ural if it wasn't so underpowered. I wonder if it would withstand an additional 40 hp from nitrous?

Wait...why would I even consider that??? :-?

The Ural is prepared to pull a sidecar. As such, it is the only bike in the world right now designed to do so. Unless its a space age leaner rig (about 30000), I strongly, strongly advise never going faster than 60 mph in a sidecar rig... And 55 is a much better idea. The Ural will do that all day, has the right gears, and the same power curve as a C50.

Overall, its the only bike in the world that is ready made to do the job.

if I had 45,000, I would fab up a 2002 R1150GSA into a rig, but short of that, I cant find another acceptable rig.
 
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