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I just finished taking the beginning rider MSF course in Springfield, MO. It is offered through Ozarks Technical College. I have been riding for about 1 1/2 months but I signed up for it a month ago. They were booked that far out in advance. I would suggest everyone take this course, especially beginners who have not ridden a whole lot yet. In my class, there were even a few seasoned riders that were taking it and they said they learned a lot as well. Friday is classroom work but Saturday and Sunday you are out on the course riding the whole time. We were riding 250 Rebels mostly. The course starts off slow but it picks up quickly. The instructors were very helpful and patient. There were a few riders that had never ridden before at all. There were 12 people in the class and all but 4 passed. The instructors are very nice but when it comes to passing the class they are working for the state and your saftey on the road. They will not pass you if you do not prove that you can safely control a motorcycle. I think this is a very good thing. The evaluation was 3 courses that tested slow tight cornering, high speed swerving, sudden stops, and high speed cornering (leaning and accelerating through curves). The instructors said that they are working on adding new classes such as an experienced riding course, dirt bike course, passenger riding course, and others. Again, after taking this course I would suggest that everyone take it at least once, and plus it was a lot of fun riding around on the state's bikes!
 

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I agree totally! I took the course 3 years ago and it was an awesome class. Of all the things that states make mandatory this should be one of them. I know that isn't a popular idea, but I think everyone could learn something from the class.
 

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me too I took it in my home town in a high school parking lot . Learned to ride a shift motoercyle there.

was on my permit w/ my 400cc scooter.
 

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skidroe55 said:
I agree totally! I took the course 3 years ago and it was an awesome class. Of all the things that states make mandatory this should be one of them. I know that isn't a popular idea, but I think everyone could learn something from the class.
I did one about a year ago, and based on what I saw I think it should be mandatory as well, if not for the rider's safety, then for the safety of the rest of us on the road. We had one who kept dumping her bike (honda nighthawk 250 I think) another who couldn't manage to stop the bike or stay in the course lines. Of course, although Utah doesn't require that one take the course, the state does require a riding skills test (the same one from the course) in order to get the motorcycle endorsement, so I guess you do need the ability to pass the riding part of the course in order to ride legally here.
 

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skidroe55 said:
I agree totally! I took the course 3 years ago and it was an awesome class. Of all the things that states make mandatory this should be one of them. I know that isn't a popular idea, but I think everyone could learn something from the class.
I did one about a year ago, and based on what I saw I think it should be mandatory as well, if not for the rider's safety, then for the safety of the rest of us on the road. We had one who kept dumping her bike (honda nighthawk 250 I think) another who couldn't manage to stop the bike or stay in the course lines. Of course, although Utah doesn't require that one take the course, the state does require a riding skills test (the same one from the course) in order to get the motorcycle endorsement, so I guess you do need the ability to pass the riding part of the course in order to ride legally here.
Florida does now.
 

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Ya, it isn't mandatory in MO either. There was a girl in my class that layed her bike over 6 times the first day. She didn't pass the class.
 

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Ya, it isn't mandatory in MO either. There was a girl in my class that layed her bike over 6 times the first day. She didn't pass the class.
6X ! :shock: :roll:

nobody drooped one in my class tho i think one didn't pass.
 

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On Long Island, NY I had to book the class in early July for an October class. I was lucky and i was pulled into an earlier class first week of september when someone dropped out.
I would suggest calling way in advance and seeing what their time table is. NY i think only has 2 MSF courses one on LI and the other upstate which makes for a long wait on signup.
 

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In Ohio, these classes are so popular, they start scheduling them in Feb and by March, they are all filled up.
(Of course with our weather - the classes only run from April thru October)


I originally took it in 2002 to get my endorsement (passing the class allows you to waive the state test in Ohio) and again last year with my wife when she was taking it.

We had 6 guys and 6 girls in the class - I think only one girl did not pass, she seemed afraid of the clutch - was always stalling in first starting from a stop.

When I took it originally in 2002, there was only one girl in our class and 11 guys - so we were surprised how many girls were in the class last year.

It was a great refresher for me - found out I had some bad habits which the instructors were all to happy to point out to me ;-)

In Ohio, the course costs you $25 - and 16 year olds looking for their endorsements HAVE to take the class.

I agree that it would be great if everyone had to take it - regardless of their age.

Jim
 

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cedman said:
$25...is that the same course?.. On LI its $300. Its 1 4hr evening class and then 2 days of riding/class mix 7am-4pm.
$216 in my neck of the woods
 

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cedman said:
$25...is that the same course?.. On LI its $300. Its 1 4hr evening class and then 2 days of riding/class mix 7am-4pm.
Yep - here in Ohio, taxpayers are funding the MSF classes.

The BRC (4 hours class room - 16 hours riding) is only $25.

Some motorcycle dealerships also put on a MSF BRC class - they charge $300.

Here is the Motorcycle Ohio Homepage

Scroll down and you'll see the current registration fee is $25.

Maybe Ohio is more receptive to the MSF than other states - since they must be footing the difference...?

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I rode dirt bikes when I was a kid, went 22 yrs without riding. Took class because I hate taking test in front of the law I get to nervous. My wife also took class as a new rider we both learned alot and would recomend it to everybody. Class cost $185 at Sedalia MO.
 

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I will throw in my 2 cents as well. I rode motocross for several years as a kid and rode on the streets for a while without a license several years ago. The weekend course through ABATE of Colorado taught me a lot of things that I had either ignored or taken for granted. $200 well spent.
 

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Ohio uses the same MSF course as does Indiana, Illinois and Tennessee.

In Indiana it's $75 ($50 for ABATE of Indiana members); the other $25 is refundable if you really don't want to be an ABATE member. The cost is offset by $5 or so on each m/c license plate/registration in Indiana.

I know someone who took it in Tennessee; his fee was over $300.
 
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