Ok all as I said I would post when I had to get new tiers. my michelin commander ii's have finaly gone bad 24,317 miles worth of riding and they are both shot. My over all take on the tiers is there great for millage but they do make the bike ride a lil more rough witch to me is fine. My driving style is realy laid back though I am close to 400lbs and ride 2up with my wife witch adds another 130 so bike is def loaded I normaly avg 55 to 65 mph and easy on take off and stops. The tiers did realy well wet and dry and even did on on a lil off roading. I will be going back with them again as they surpassed my expataions. I have ran a few dif tiers over the years but this is by far the longest lasting ones I have ever owned. for those of you that are just curiuos about them don't be scared there realy a great tire! They look good and stayed looking good for there life even when I got them down to there wearbars. well hope this helps people when on the fence enjoy and god bless. Keep the Shiny side up till next time...