I have '09 stock exhaust, honest Abe punched, plates removed, both mufflers. Looking to swap for either honest Abe punched or not, but plates intact, undrilled in any case. Deep sounding OK, loud..... not so much. I'm talking the mufflers only, not the complete system. If anybody out there wants to take it to the next level, let me know. Chrome is good on the set I have. Thanks, and watch out for the pot holes.