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Many of us enjoyed the two "Long Way" series with Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman. They're starting to work on a third, Long Way Up, from the southern tip of Argentina to somewhere at the top of North America.

There was a lot of speculation about what brand of bikes they'd be using. Now it looks like they're going to be on....LiveWires?

https://www.lonerider-motorcycle.com/blogs/loneriderblog/ewan-mcgregor-and-charley-boormans-long-way-up-will-be-on-electric-motorcycles?fbclid=IwAR1FfAkfPuUmFXk8o8Hp07w6cCjzZ1CP_ugKlqV0itnSycEa8sl9xUCmRVU
 

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Very interesting! There has been all sorts of speculation about who their motorcycle supplier/sponsor was going to be for this venture.

I'm sure that they've spent a lot of time working out the logistics and have a back up plan. It's likely that there aren't charging stations around every corner in some areas of South America or Alaska when they get that far north.
 

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Ought to be riveting to watch them spend eight hours at charging stations playing board games while they wait for the bikes to charge.
 

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I've watched, read, and enjoyed the other "Long Way Whatevers" and I'm looking forward to another one.

I'm really curious to see how this all works out with the electrics. Practical, or a paid publicity stunt? For me, there's no electric made today that could even handle my commute and daily riding, let alone any sort of touring.

It ought to be interesting.
 

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They're going to use solar power and treadmills to charge the batteries. too bad they have to stop every 100 miles and wait two days to charge everything.
 

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I've watched, read, and enjoyed the other "Long Way Whatevers" and I'm looking forward to another one.

I'm really curious to see how this all works out with the electrics. Practical, or a paid publicity stunt? For me, there's no electric made today that could even handle my commute and daily riding, let alone any sort of touring.

It ought to be interesting.
The Zero SR/F claims to get 161 miles city and 82 miles highway. I don't know how much you travel on a standard day, but that range would cover most people for day to day usage. It's when you decide to travel out of town that electric motorcycles start to fall apart.

The Zero FXS has an easily replaceable battery module. You can buy the short range model and then purchase additional batteries for it. The additional battery cost about $3k, so I don't think most people would want to do that, but imagine if Zero struck a deal with a major retailer like Walmart with a bunch of locations. They could do a battery exchange, kind of like Blue Rhino does with propane tanks. You could ride up to a Walmart, pay them a fee and swap out your depleted battery with one that had a full charge. Doing that you could refuel and be back on the road in a matter of a few minutes.

I think that's the future of electric vehicles. I doubt they will ever get an electric vehicle to charge from empty to full fast enough to be truly competitive with ICE vehicles. When battery exchanges become a thing I might actually consider buying one.
 

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The Zero SR/F claims to get 161 miles city and 82 miles highway. I don't know how much you travel on a standard day, but that range would cover most people for day to day usage. It's when you decide to travel out of town that electric motorcycles start to fall apart.
That's where it falls apart for me.

My commute is almost exactly 60 miles round trip...The largest portion being on the interstate highways. So that's possibly doable except that it's not always straight there and back. I may have to take other trips during the day or while I'm at work. Detours too...I've had to make long detours from time to time due to conditions beyond anyone's control...landslides, accidents, construction, and once even sudden flooding. (That event resulted in hours and miles of trail and error trying to find safe and passable roads to get back home...in the rain at night, too. Fun times. :frown2:) I would have certainly been stranded.

And that doesn't include my love of long rides and touring. I can't arrange for a team of pickup trucks to follow me around with fresh batteries. Anyway, I'm a solo rider by nature. That sort of stuff would make my teeth itch.

But that's me. Electrics may certainly may fill the bill for others. Good on them.

Let me state for the record that I have no, none, zero, problems with electric vehicles of any kind. I'm sort of an eyes-full-of-wonder futurist myself. Always have been. I'm still pissed that we don't have the flying cars we were all promised when I was a kid. :laugh:

When the technology catches up with the demands, (and the costs become reasonable) I'll be happily on board. Until then...it's still vroom vroom.

(And in my almost 65 years, I've also found that while everyone was waiting for the much-touted technology B to mature enough to replace the old-fashioned technology A, a new technology C often arises to make both obsolete. Remember all those people who spent a lot of money buying new houses wired for the upcoming cutting edge DSL lines? Just a short time before wireless?
Are we sure electrics are the future? Maybe. But I wouldn't put all my money on it. History is fun to watch while it's happening. :grin2: )
 

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It's going to me a loooong time before electric is possible for everyone. It may be 50 years or more before people in less populated areas can reasonably user an electric vehicle, and that's alright.

I'm waiting on those flying cars too. Marty McFly and Doc Brown lied to me.
 

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As the boys didn't finish on the same bikes they started on with the 2 other journeys, I can't see them finishing on the same electric bikes here either. Complete support system to prepare and repair daily.
 

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As the boys didn't finish on the same bikes they started on with the 2 other journeys, I can't see them finishing on the same electric bikes here either. Complete support system to prepare and repair daily.
Hey rv how have you been?
 

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It's going to me a loooong time before electric is possible for everyone. It may be 50 years or more before people in less populated areas can reasonably user an electric vehicle, and that's alright.

I'm waiting on those flying cars too. Marty McFly and Doc Brown lied to me.
I'm still waiting on the jet packs they told us We'd have by the turn of the century. Told that back in the late 60's to early 70's. We should be strapping them on and zipping around at our rallys.
 

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If they bikes run into major malfunctions, and I said if. Think of the public relations nightmare if there seems to be a cover-up of the Live Wires shortcomings.
 

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It's going to me a loooong time before electric is possible for everyone. It may be 50 years or more before people in less populated areas can reasonably user an electric vehicle, and that's alright.

I'm waiting on those flying cars too. Marty McFly and Doc Brown lied to me.
Right, but around town, commuting, and well planned long trips are 100% doable today without a lot of additional effort.
 

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It's going to me a loooong time before electric is possible for everyone. It may be 50 years or more before people in less populated areas can reasonably user an electric vehicle, and that's alright.

I'm waiting on those flying cars too. Marty McFly and Doc Brown lied to me.
Right, but around town, commuting, and well planned long trips are 100% doable today without a lot of additional effort. I still think internal combustion engine motor vehicles days are numbered. We may be dragging our feet but Europe and China are full steam ahead.
 

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Right, but around town, commuting, and well planned long trips are 100% doable today without a lot of additional effort. I still think internal combustion engine motor vehicles days are numbered. We may be dragging our feet but Europe and China are full steam ahead.
They've been numbered since the day they were created, the question is, how long. I don't think I'll live to see ICE vehicle sales end unless they are artificially killed off, like incandescent bulbs were. I'm sure I'll see the day when electric is the majority though and ICE vehicle are limited to specialty applications.

Let's look at incandescent bulbs. The government thought they knew better and pressure from environmentalist set in to force them to regulate that incandescent bulbs can't be sold. The result? People with reptiles as pets are forced into a gray market top purchase them. Why? Because LED and fluorescent are great at creating light, but lizards aren't interested in reading, they want heat.

It's those kinds of specialty applications that we tend to overlook and what exploding dinosaur engines will continue to service for a long time to come.

Ever watch Ice Road Truckers? Can you imagine that sort of thing being done with an EV? We'll figure it out eventually, we always do, but it'll take time.
 

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They've been numbered since the day they were created, the question is, how long. I don't think I'll live to see ICE vehicle sales end unless they are artificially killed off, like incandescent bulbs were. I'm sure I'll see the day when electric is the majority though and ICE vehicle are limited to specialty applications.

Let's look at incandescent bulbs. The government thought they knew better and pressure from environmentalist set in to force them to regulate that incandescent bulbs can't be sold. The result? People with reptiles as pets are forced into a gray market top purchase them. Why? Because LED and fluorescent are great at creating light, but lizards aren't interested in reading, they want heat.

It's those kinds of specialty applications that we tend to overlook and what exploding dinosaur engines will continue to service for a long time to come.

Ever watch Ice Road Truckers? Can you imagine that sort of thing being done with an EV? We'll figure it out eventually, we always do, but it'll take time.
And what was the replacement bulb at the time? It was the CFL. Then it came out that if these break you have a mercury contamination to clean up. Not Good. Then the LED's finally started taking over.
 

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As the boys didn't finish on the same bikes they started on with the 2 other journeys, I can't see them finishing on the same electric bikes here either. Complete support system to prepare and repair daily.
Hey rv how have you been?

Good sir, thanks for asking.
 

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They've been numbered since the day they were created, the question is, how long. I don't think I'll live to see ICE vehicle sales end unless they are artificially killed off, like incandescent bulbs were. I'm sure I'll see the day when electric is the majority though and ICE vehicle are limited to specialty applications.

Let's look at incandescent bulbs. The government thought they knew better and pressure from environmentalist set in to force them to regulate that incandescent bulbs can't be sold. The result? People with reptiles as pets are forced into a gray market top purchase them. Why? Because LED and fluorescent are great at creating light, but lizards aren't interested in reading, they want heat.

It's those kinds of specialty applications that we tend to overlook and what exploding dinosaur engines will continue to service for a long time to come.

Ever watch Ice Road Truckers? Can you imagine that sort of thing being done with an EV? We'll figure it out eventually, we always do, but it'll take time.
I think they are going to be killed off. The U.S. leadership,is lagging but the the rest of the world is moving on. U.K. has a mandate to be all electric by 2028 or something like that. China leads the electric vehicle industry, someThing Tesla doesn’t want you to know. The EU emissions targets for CO2 are pretty much unachievable with internal combustion engines. The world is moving on.
 
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