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Stopped in at the local bike superstore, I was thinking about a fresh helmet.

But as I looked over the rows of bikes on the showroom floor I was suprised to see big discounts on all the models. These people sell Honda and Yamaha mainly, but the markdowns were substantial. And nobody looking on a warm Saturday afternoon.

With the $4 gas around here, I thought they'd be selling bikes like crazy.

Just how much trouble is the economy in? Anybody else noticing big discounts at the dealers?
 

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Yes,
Good deals here lately...very good!
Less cars on the road.
Less people at the grocery.
Gas stations are definetely dead around here.
 

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andrushok said:
Just one notice: if you buy a bike you can definitely save gasoline. But you cannot save money :(
+1, you'd have to put a damn lot of miles on that bike to have saved enough in gas to justify the cost of the motorcycle. Now someone looking to buy a bike anyway, great deal, you can spend the money you had earmarked on that bike and then while riding it, save money on gas. But to buy one just to save gas...can't say that's the most sound decision.
 

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The Volusianator said:
andrushok said:
Just one notice: if you buy a bike you can definitely save gasoline. But you cannot save money :(
+1, you'd have to put a damn lot of miles on that bike to have saved enough in gas to justify the cost of the motorcycle. Now someone looking to buy a bike anyway, great deal, you can spend the money you had earmarked on that bike and then while riding it, save money on gas. But to buy one just to save gas...can't say that's the most sound decision.
Why not? I have my bike and an $800 POS VW Diesel for the wife to commute with. My bike only cost 7k new and gets 45 mpg and I might have 3k in farkles on it. The VW gets even better mileage than that.
It helps me save money. I am already saving to buy another bike cash.

I could see how buying a bike on top of a car wouldn't help much but if you buy one instead of a cage then you are golden.
 

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Well, if you buy it instead and ride it year round, you could save, but if you buy it in addition to, then you are incurring the extra expense of the bike and the savings in gas isn't going to make up for that for many, many, many miles.

I think most of us live in climates and areas where year round riding isn't an option.
 

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The Volusianator said:
andrushok said:
Just one notice: if you buy a bike you can definitely save gasoline. But you cannot save money :(
+1, you'd have to put a damn lot of miles on that bike to have saved enough in gas to justify the cost of the motorcycle. Now someone looking to buy a bike anyway, great deal, you can spend the money you had earmarked on that bike and then while riding it, save money on gas. But to buy one just to save gas...can't say that's the most sound decision.
I never really worked out the numbers but..
Just figuring it out for work driving...

The Explorer gets 15mi/gal. At 200 miles/week for work and 3.75/gal for gas... thats about 50.00 week for gas....or 200 dollars per month.

The C50 get 45mi/gal. 200 miles/week and 3.75/gal.
thats about 17.00/week or 68.00/month

Assuming perfect weather if i rode all month i would save about 132.00/month. So if i rode 48 months all the time i would "save" the cost of the bike. 132.00x48months = 6300.00

but with rain/snow/wind it aint gonna happen.
 

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So far between what I would have put on my car and considering its lousy gas milage I figure I have saved $2000 in gas cost difference during the last 2 years. At this rate I will break even in 4 more years if the gas prices stabilize.

Cheers!
 

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I never really worked out the numbers but..
Just figuring it out for work driving...

The Explorer gets 15mi/gal. At 200 miles/week for work and 3.75/gal for gas... thats about 50.00 week for gas....or 200 dollars per month.

The C50 get 45mi/gal. 200 miles/week and 3.75/gal.
thats about 17.00/week or 68.00/month
Assuming perfect weather if i rode all month i would save about 132.00/month. So if i rode 48 months all the time i would "save" the cost of the bike. 132.00x48months = 6300.00

but with rain/snow/wind it aint gonna happen.
Plus you can calculate what the bike is worth at the end of that 48 months and subtract that figure because if you sold the bike, you would have made money on the deal.

Right now i have 2 cages, one is a one ton dually that gets AT BEST 10mpg, and my Durango R/T that gets 14 at best. Lets toss out the bike purchase alltogether and just think about fuel mileage using kind of the same scenario as above

My better half did some commuting while we were down in texas this past winter for about 3 months, she drove 60 miles per day round trip for 5 days a week. I bought her a 94 honda civic (she hasnt learned to ride yet) that got about 30mpg average. Thats 2-3 times better than either of my cages. I bought this car for 1600, with TT&L and insurance it was a bit under 2K. Assuming in those 4 months x 5 days per week she drove 4800 miles.

GMC= 4800/10mpg = 480 Gallons of fuel
Durango= 4800/14mpg = 342 Gallons of fuel
Honda= 4800/30mpg = 160 Gallons of fuel

Costs of usage at $3 per gallon (for ease and sake of argument)
GMC= $1440
Durango= $1026
Honda= $480

As you can see by comparison, we saved damn near a thousand dollars driving the honda as compared to the one ton, and thats calculating $3 per gallon, so it would be over a thousand with another .50 added on to each gallon for gas prices today.

Turn that around and i just sold the car before we left, and i sold it for $2000. Basically that means i made my money back from everything ive ever put into it, and the gas savings is money in the bank.

That being said, we havent even STARTED to take into consideration the FUN you will have on the bike, which cant be bought with just money...

One would think that the bikes would be selling like hot cakes, but just like in investing, people dont think about LONG TERM. They think about RIGHT NOW and RIGHT NOW they have to fill up the tanks and the fridge and this and that. With the above scenario, one says, so what, you save about $10 a day, big deal.... that aint gonna cover what i gotta pay for the fuel efficient vehicle... but again, people are feeling the crunch and thinking about "right now money" rather than the bigger picture. Unfortunately those most likely are the same ones living paycheck to paycheck and off of credit and have a mortgage and 2 car notes, which probably represents a LARGE part of america....
 

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oh please. NOBODY buys a bike for it's efficiency. That might be the excuse you would give your wife - but it's not the reason. :twisted:

I never drive my bike to work.......too risky......too many idiots up there to trust it to be left alone while I'm away. I bought a gas guzzling pickup the day gas prices jumped to $2.00/gallon. The next week I bought a $200.00 geo from Colleen and drove it at 42 MPGs for 2 years until it died. I'm pretty sure that car paid for itself. Then I bought an $800.00 93 ford escort, and am currently running the wheels off of it at 38mpg.....and am in the process of repairing the clutch (Myself - yes I am quite capable of working on CARS in spite of my ignorance and lack of confidence when it comes to working on bikes) at a cost of $62.48


I have my truck ( for use on special occasions......and quite frankly because it's just a DAMN COOL TRUCK), I have my bike (to insure that I have a LIFE on the weekends, and a fun mode of travel for vacations) , I have my fuel efficient car, and I still have $$$ in my pocket at the end of the week.

If you do it right - do your research and do some footwork in search of the right "work vehicle" - you can have what you want, and still be cost efficient about it. You just can't be too proud about what you're seen in when driving to work.
 

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I ride mine to work now and everytime I do, I feel like I am getting money back on my investment of the bike. Sure, I am not going to come out ahead money wise, BUT, it's making that great ride a better deal each day. That's enough for me!
 

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+1 people always asked my dad what kind of gas mileage he got from his bike. His response was always "Don't know didn't get it to save gas. When it's empty I fill it. That's all"
 

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calan said:
oh please. NOBODY buys a bike for it's efficiency. That might be the excuse you would give your wife - but it's not the reason. :twisted:

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I would be willing to be that if we were all honest, this is true for the majority of us!

For one thing, we always take the long way just because we can, so we cover much more ground!

Plus, the amount we save on gas, we ALL know goes right into mods for the bike! Then, once we get it all modded out, it's time to trade it in for something else and start all over!

I put almost 30,000 miles on my bike a year and I can tell you first hand...... I haven't saved a DIME!!
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calan said:
oh please. NOBODY buys a bike for it's efficiency. That might be the excuse you would give your wife - but it's not the reason. :twisted:
it is a damn good bennie though.... lol

I try to ride the bike whenever i can, even if it means i need to bring a shit ton of bungee cords with me...... heres an oldie but a goodie!!!!

 

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My bike will pay for itself QUICK! I'm already saving more than $100 per month on gas since I ride to work and everywhere else... PLUS I get paid mileage for going to meetings and conferences... and I go to a lot... so I actually come out ahead on that end as well.
 

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Biker Principal said:
My bike will pay for itself QUICK! I'm already saving more than $100 per month on gas since I ride to work and everywhere else... PLUS I get paid mileage for going to meetings and conferences... and I go to a lot... so I actually come out ahead on that end as well.
getting paid to ride your bike.... now thats a nice curve...
 

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I ride my bike to work almost everyday. I've logged over 22k miles on my C-50 since I bought it and only logged about 4k miles on my Silverado since I bought the bike. $14.00 a week in gas for the C-50 vs. $100.00 a week in gas for the Silverado and it's pretty easy to see the cost savings for me.
 

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calan said:
oh please. NOBODY buys a bike for it's efficiency. That might be the excuse you would give your wife - but it's not the reason. :twisted:
Actually Ms Bebop and I did buy our bikes for the efficiency. She started it all by buying a GZ250 to ride to work. It got about 75-80 mpg. Then I bought the C50 (my first bike) for the same reason since the GZ250 was way too small for me. Later she traded up to a C50 so we could use them for other trips/vacations. Even the combined gas bill for the 2 bikes on a trip will be less than the car. The added bonus is I found out I really like riding.

Cheers!
 

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basshole said:
I ride my bike to work almost everyday. I've logged over 22k miles on my C-50 since I bought it and only logged about 4k miles on my Silverado since I bought the bike. $14.00 a week in gas for the C-50 vs. $100.00 a week in gas for the Silverado and it's pretty easy to see the cost savings for me.
I guess a lot of my riding was to and from work as well, cuz i dont really ride them as much as i used to.... lol...
 

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I ride as much as I can to work. At 50 MPG's, vs the 16 for the truck, it's a no brainer!

But if I had to buy a bike, it sure wouldn't be that big a savings!

The Star is paid for, and that helps a lot! No bike payment and 50MPG's really saves some money! :D
 
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