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So there's this wonderful roundabout where I live. The design of it has changed since inception. There's even some handy materials our city puts out to note lanes of travel. Last Tuesday I was riding to work in the morning and, lo and behold, someone who doesn't know how to navigate the roundabout turns right in front of me. The image below says "Proposed", but those are the current lane assignments. Suffice it to say, she was cited, she was found at fault, her insurance is taking care of me. It's just a bonehead move and I wonder how many times she's done it and almost hit someone (she ALMOST hit the car in front of me, too). It was such a nice morning to ride into work, she's super lucky I wasn't in my pickup instead. You can see the slide marks from my crash bars and highway pegs on the concrete when I step back and look back at her car. If those weren't there, I would have likely lost bits of my leg instead.







 

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It was hard to see the lines at the time of the accident, but later when you look back at it, it was quite clear that she crossed the line to hit you. Sorry man. Idiots are everywhere and you apparently found one.
 

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I really wish folks would have gotten the roundabout thing out of their system before heading out west.
I keep seeing them crop up all over AZ.

Glad you're ok.

As a 4 wheeler she sucks.

But as a rider, you already knew she was a problem child.
I wouldn't have given her the chance to confirm it any further.

But....Shlt happens.
 

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Roundabouts are actually way better than lights, but the morons around here can't seem to figure out that their different than a 4-way stop.

I swear people in my area get their drivers licenses out of Cracker Jack boxes.
 

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Roundabouts are actually way better than lights, but the morons around here can't seem to figure out that their different than a 4-way stop.

I swear people in my area get their drivers licenses out of Cracker Jack boxes.
The town 80 miles south of me has about 4 or 5 of them.
The cops sit in the middle just waiting for someone to screw up.
 

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becoming popular in Ct...unfortunately folks here don't quite understand the concept...been in Mass for years...personally I like them.
 

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But as a rider, you already knew she was a problem child.
I wouldn't have given her the chance to confirm it any further.

I would agree with you except that she was so far forward of me that I honestly forgot about her. It wasn't until I reviewed the video that I realized it was the same car doing the same stupid stuff beforehand. I thought she'd already gone through the roundabout by the time I was there. I also thought "well I'm following vehicles in my lane, no one is stupid enough to turn at the last second into me" -- but there she was.





Most of our roundabouts are either one or two lanes. This one is in an area where there is a very high flow of traffic. It used to be a traffic light intersection with very very few accidents. Within the first two weeks of opening it as a roundabout there were 70+ -- which is why they did the redesign to the current lane structure. Even then people can't understand how the lanes work and don't pay attention to the couple of signs before the roundabout or the huge concrete markings before and in the roundabout. Her entire argument was that her lane allowed that because of the straight arrows she saw... the straight arrows that were for the entrance she'd just passed, not for her entrance.



I, honestly, would rather just wait at a light, but they've sunk so much money into this roundabout it's never going away - even with the higher than normal crash statistics.
 

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I may have posted this before, but here are some shots of the worlds stupidest roundabout.
It's about 100 miles from my home.
I think my blood pressure rises every time I encounter this bastard.
 

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when I as growing up they were called traffic circles the biggest problem with round abouts are they are s small and that makes them confusing, back in the days of traffic circles ,they were large and this caused everyone to enter and drive as fast as possible so as making everyone wait like they had to get on and off or in or out , it beats the hell out of the jug handles in N.J.
 

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As a delivery driver (retired but delivered lumber) I hated them and I still do. Just make that intersection a 4 way stop.
 

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There's just nothing like driving a semi with a 63 foot trailer and encountering a roundabout full of cars.

And yeah, those jug handles make for an equal challenge.
 

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The problem with a 4-way stop is that if you have a high traffic road that meets up with a low traffic road you unnecessarily slow down the movement of traffic on the high traffic road just so that the occasional vehicle trying to enter from the low traffic road can get in safely.

If everyone will use a round-about properly, they really are the best way to go.
 

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Glad it wasn't worse. I noticed that the whole time she sat there, she didn't even turn on her flashers to warn others.
Here they've exploded with roundabouts. Most cities have an ordinance that states " if a semi or other tractor- trailer combination are in a roundabout, cars must yield the right of way to them. Only seen it enforced once.
 

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Most cities have an ordinance that states " if a semi or other tractor- trailer combination are in a roundabout, cars must yield the right of way to them.
I'm assuming this is for large multi lane roundabouts?

Most of them around here are small single lanes, and the rule for a roundabout that everyone seems to screw up is that the vehicle in the roundabout has right of way, so that rule would be a bit redundantly redundant.
 

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There's just nothing like driving a semi with a 63 foot trailer and encountering a roundabout full of cars.

And yeah, those jug handles make for an equal challenge.
I can't count the number of times I dragged the rear axles over one of those.......even had a cop stop me for it once.
 

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Most of ours are a tight 2 lane. In my truck, I take a lane and a half since they're pretty tight.
Ah! I see. So the concern is cars trying to pass trucks in the other lane and causing accidents because the trucks can't stay completely in one lane. That makes sense.
 

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Ah! I see. So the concern is cars trying to pass trucks in the other lane and causing accidents because the trucks can't stay completely in one lane. That makes sense.
Four wheelers have an uncontrollable desire to get caught up in tandems.
It's a natural phenominamenamena!
 

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Just after they passed the ordinance in one town, I was taking up my 2 lanes when a dump truck tried to pass me on the right. I had to cut it back left and come to a stop. Looked in my mirror and the trailer was about 6" from hitting the center decoration. There was a city cop that was in the roundabout, he waited on me to exit it, then hit his lights and hauled butt after the dump truck. I later learned he was hit with a $150 ticket and the cost of cleaning my tire marks off the curb.
 

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Just after they passed the ordinance in one town, I was taking up my 2 lanes when a dump truck tried to pass me on the right. I had to cut it back left and come to a stop. Looked in my mirror and the trailer was about 6" from hitting the center decoration. There was a city cop that was in the roundabout, he waited on me to exit it, then hit his lights and hauled butt after the dump truck. I later learned he was hit with a $150 ticket and the cost of cleaning my tire marks off the curb.
Justice does happen now and then.
I should probably share the story of taking a car door off with a semi and having a good laugh with the cops about it.
But maybe some other time.

We've totally jacked this guys thread up.
 
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