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Heard about a guy who went down over the weekend, taking a corner too fast.. ( so I was told)... anyway he said his engine guard, (Crash bar) caught the pavement and caused the accident..??? he ended up in ICU with a brain bleed and hopefully will be ok. im not an aggressive rider but was thinking about getting the cobra bars for my bike but...... if the above is true...im having second thoughts. Any experts out there with any input on this topic? Thank you.
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cornering too fast, but the bar caused teh accident?

and yes they can scrape
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Anytime you ride and exceed the bikes equipment characteristics could turn ugly very quick. I surmise the rider was inexperienced, riding beyond their ability and using poor judgement. Don't blame this type of accident on the bars. Blame it on riders inability to ride safely on a bike that is not a sport bike.

I've got Cobra bars and have never once in 70k miles scraped the bars or felt I was in danger with them on. In fact, I feel confident the bars will do their job which is protect me and the bike.
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Less clearance is less clearance. The turn may have been so poorly executed the bars were just the first thing to hit the ground.
If the bars are engineered correctly for the bike, the floorboards will scrape before the bars. I have Cobra bars on my C50. I have SLIGHTLY scraped the floorboards a couple of times in curve. I have never scraped the Cobra bars. Yes, if you really push way too fast into a corner I could see the boards folding up to the point where the bars will touch, but you would be in way over your head if that happened. Here are two pictures; the first shows scrapes on the edge of my floorboard but not on my Cobra bars, the second shows the lean angles projected onto a front photo of a bike (not a C50) equipped with properly-engineered Cobra bars.

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Holy crap would you have to be laying into a turn to scrape the crash bars! Or maybe he caught them on a curb or some other obstruction but... wow
first time i went down and started sliding after hitting an ice spot, scary too think what would have happened to my legs if i didn't have my cobras...
If the bars hit the ground, the bike is too far over to recover because the frame is next to hit had the bars not been there. These are not crouch rockets. Stupid is as Stupid does. The ride bell on my trike came off my Vol. It is worn in 1/2. My floor boards hit the ground on occasion. My bars never hit.
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Nothing to worry about. I've got Cobras and haven't touched them down in about 10k miles. I have scared the s**t out of myself a time or two making left turns because the center divider was a bit high and I got real close. :bigoops: I just learned to swing those turns a bit wider.
My experience has been that crash bars aren't dangerous if you remember that you're riding a cruiser. I had MCE's on the C50 and the only thing I scraped was the floorboards and the exhaust. I had the bike lowered and aftermarket exhaust. I am fairly aggressive when riding twisties. When I got the Vulcan 1500 I bought a set of MCE's on e-Bay and they substituted Cobra's. I thought "oh well" crash bars are crash bars. They are not.........I ruined two sets of crash bar chaps by scraping those Cobra bars. I finally replaced them with Baron Bars. The Cobra's stick out and down too far on bottom. You can touch them down before hitting the floorboard scrapers. All it takes is just a little "bump" in a corner when you've got it laid over good and "YES" you will be down and sliding.

Get crash bars..........just not Cobra's. Then try to remember that you're riding a cruiser.

Somewhere on here is a thread about Cobra bars. It would be a worth while search/read.
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My experience has been that crash bars aren't dangerous if you remember that you're riding a cruiser. I had MCE's on the C50 and the only thing I scraped was the floorboards and the exhaust. I had the bike lowered and aftermarket exhaust. I am fairly aggressive when riding twisties. When I got the Vulcan 1500 I bought a set of MCE's on e-Bay and they substituted Cobra's. I thought "oh well" crash bars are crash bars. They are not.........I ruined two sets of crash bar chaps by scraping those Cobra bars. I finally replaced them with Baron Bars. The Cobra's stick out and down too far on bottom. You can touch them down before hitting the floorboard scrapers. All it takes is just a little "bump" in a corner when you've got it laid over good and "YES" you will be down and sliding.

Get crash bars..........just not Cobra's. Then try to remember that you're riding a cruiser.

Somewhere on here is a thread about Cobra bars. It would be a worth while search/read.
Hmm..so, Duffy, the Cobra bars on your Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 touch ground before the floorboards? I'm not doubting this is true, it is just perplexing that Cobra got it right on the C50 (lots of margin for the boards to touch well before the bars) but apparently didn't get it right on your Kawasaki. :wtf:
Dec 2009. I was on a warm winter's ride with my wife. We were entering a favourite S-Bend that we had ridden 1000 times before. On this day, my front tire slid on some gravel and the bike leaned over, forcing the crash bar to make contact with the pavement. The crash-bar then acted as a pivot point and levered the front tire completely off the pavement, rendering any steering input useless. I was NOT riding too fast for the conditions. I was NOT pushing the bike beyond its capacity. Had the crash bar NOT been there, I COULD have recovered and ridden through the turn, shaken, but uninjured. But, because the crash bar levered the front tire from the pavement, I went for a wild ride down a 60 foot embankment before finally being ejected over the handlebars and landing face first on a rock, shattering my face shield.

Any time hard parts touch down, bad things will happen. Some bars (Cobra in particular) will touch LONG BEFORE the floor board makes contact, which will cause serious issues like mine. So, yes. Crash bars CAN cause a crash in the right circumstances, even when the rider is not hot-dogging through the corners.
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I can say without a doubt that the Cobra Highway Bars can scrape the road when riding. I've been riding all types of bike for years and sometimes am a little aggressive on the Volusia. I have flats worn into the crash bars from scraping the road. As you either high or low side the bike and the bars hit there is sometimes a slight bump back and if your not an experienced rider you can jerk the bike and cause an accident. That is my guess as to the accident in question. So long story to answer the original question proposed, yes it is possible that highway bars can cause an accident if you over ride the machine. Training and knowing your limits is always the best advice.
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I've never scraped the highway bars on mine, but have gotten the foot rest maybe twice. Just the little sacrificial part that almost looks like an acorn nut. I did scrape the highway pegs in a tight traffic circle last night. I made an adjustment to them the other day and they must stick out a tad further. Didn't realize it was the highway pegs until I got home and felt them and noticed the scuff. I'll be adjusting them out of the way very soon. To hit the highway bars I would have to hit the foot rests hard enough to push them up almost vertical I would think
If you get off the gas, or hit the brake in a corner and compress your forks while in a corner with the wheel turned, a common problem when entering too hot, you can dive the hwy bars lower. But it takes a turned wheel and trying to lose speed rapidly such as getting off the gas to create this situation. If you maintain speed, the floorboards always scrape first. I had cobra's on my C50 and I scraped the boards frequently. The hwy bars got close, but even under severe deceleration they floorboards hit first. Never when I was hot and maintaining speed or accelerating through the twisties. Now if I got scared and got off the gas a little, well that is a different story. I am not saying what happened to others did not happen, **** happens. I am not saying I could recover if my front wheel slid out while hot in the corners, I am just saying if it happened, I'd not blame the Hwy bars and take a hard look at my riding skills. I preferred the Cobra's over the MCI. My choice.
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ive only had my C50T about 3 weeks, i bought it with bags, highway bars (and pegs) and floorboards, already on it, within the first week i had scraped during curves, (my previous bikes where a Honda rebel 250, a Yamaha R6, and an old Honda cb360t, so im use to leaning a lot farther with curves

but as everyone stated, it was 100% the riders fault, not the bars, for example if you want to ride the dragon, don't take a cruiser or you're going to either scrape A LOT, or be a slug going through the turns,

i didnt even look to see if it was my floorboard or my bars that scraped,
I think it's dangerous not to have bars.
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Any time hard parts touch down, bad things will happen. Some bars (Cobra in particular) will touch LONG BEFORE the floor board makes contact, which will cause serious issues like mine. So, yes. Crash bars CAN cause a crash in the right circumstances, even when the rider is not hot-dogging through the corners.
One of the reasons I went with the LinBar as they start the angle up way before most giving that little extra fudge factor. I have dragged the floorboards a couple of times on Inside-Out turns, but that's on me for not knowing the road and riding it like normal. I also like the fact that they have a foot perch built into them.
But even in that extreme case it's possible to have ended the same.

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Nice shot, good to see in application side by side.
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