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Anyone build a cafe racer out of there Vol? Or does anyone have any pics of cafe bars on there bikes? Thinking of a new project.
 

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Yeah I kinda want to do a bobber/cafe racer, but wanted to see if anyone had a pic of the cafe bars on before I spent the money on them.
 

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Guess you're thinking of just cafe style bars? Cause the cafe style seat would just look dumb... but different for sure.
 

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Could it even be done without serious frame mods? The Vol has your feet so far out in front of you. If you put cafe bars on it, you will be bent in half. I did drag bars without risers on my Magna, and it was bad even with the mid-mount pegs.
I guess anything is possible with a little (or a lot of ) effort, but I think there are better platforms to start with.
 

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Anyone build a cafe racer out of there Vol? Or does anyone have any pics of cafe bars on there bikes? Thinking of a new project.

KalvinKlein . . . a Vol cafe racer? Funny you should mention it; you're the only person I've come across yet who, that I know of, apart from myself, might have had such a thought. The VL800 appeals to the cruiser market and the bobber/chopper variants and I've yet to see a cafe racer version even though I've been on the lookout for a while just out of interest. It so happens that I butchered some images in photoshop a little while ago before your post to see what such an animal might look like, it's only rough but it might give you some ideas. Also thrown in, a pic of an HD café, not a Vol, but a similar configuration of motorcycle not usually a candidate for café style, for further thought food.

The VL800 might not be considered a suitable candidate for such a variant, perhaps a little on the heavy side and down some on power, but there's no doubt that even the stocker certainly goes spritely enough to get out of it's own way, and even with "bagger lard" hung on, I'm surprised how nimble and responsive the VL800 can feel on the road most of the time once you've got some speed up to get the steering geometry working.

First essential; ditch the stock "fat" fuel tank and get something way slimmer to get room for the lower handlebars to work. A steering damper will help a lot just to smooth things out with shorter handlebar leverage. I've found out from nasty experiences that the VL800 has a lot more inherent stability than you might think initially, and will not put you down on your butt without good reason, but in fast sweepers can feel a bit wiggly in the front end. Pirelli or Bridgestone Battlax front tyres are available in 16" for the Vol rim size for a sportier profile.
And the forward footrests have to go, some rearsets would have to be devised, you certainly need more cornering clearance.
I, for one, offer you full encouragement to embark on such a project, the outcome could be interesting, and I feel that a well-executed Vol/50 café racer could attract some attention both on and outside of VR.
 

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KalvinKlein . . . a Vol cafe racer? Funny you should mention it; you're the only person I've come across yet who, that I know of, apart from myself, might have had such a thought. The VL800 appeals to the cruiser market and the bobber/chopper variants and I've yet to see a cafe racer version even though I've been on the lookout for a while just out of interest. It so happens that I butchered some images in photoshop a little while ago before your post to see what such an animal might look like, it's only rough but it might give you some ideas. Also thrown in, a pic of an HD café, not a Vol, but a similar configuration of motorcycle not usually a candidate for café style, for further thought food.

The VL800 might not be considered a suitable candidate for such a variant, perhaps a little on the heavy side and down some on power, but there's no doubt that even the stocker certainly goes spritely enough to get out of it's own way, and even with "bagger lard" hung on, I'm surprised how nimble and responsive the VL800 can feel on the road most of the time once you've got some speed up to get the steering geometry working.

First essential; ditch the stock "fat" fuel tank and get something way slimmer to get room for the lower handlebars to work. A steering damper will help a lot just to smooth things out with shorter handlebar leverage. I've found out from nasty experiences that the VL800 has a lot more inherent stability than you might think initially, and will not put you down on your butt without good reason, but in fast sweepers can feel a bit wiggly in the front end. Pirelli or Bridgestone Battlax front tyres are available in 16" for the Vol rim size for a sportier profile.
And the forward footrests have to go, some rearsets would have to be devised, you certainly need more cornering clearance.
I, for one, offer you full encouragement to embark on such a project, the outcome could be interesting, and I feel that a well-executed Vol/50 café racer could attract some attention both on and outside of VR.
Your Vol version looks good but the tank is huge... Cafe racers usually have small tanks 2 to 3 gal. and the seat would only allow long legged riders. I do like the idea of a vl800 cafe but I don't see it happening without some frame modifacation. The cowl that you drew is awsome and goes with the flow of the rest of the bike, reduce and lower the tank maybe lower the seat a bit. keep up the ideas.
 

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If someone could do it...Bully, you'd be the one...only guy I know could win the salt flats with an ox cart...way to go mate...
 

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The S40 has a cafe mod.

http://www.rycamotors.com/

Looks good. My wife rides an S40. She's 5'2". I hate riding it. I feel like I'm rolled up in a little ball on it. It's a tiny bike. I'm 5'10". She rarely rides unless the weather is spectacular so I'm always forced to run gas through the carb from time to time.


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The vol can't be done. too low to the ground, it almost has a plunger look. An S40... heck yes, could do that.

Lots of sweet cafe bikes at the show today.
 

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If I knew what a mid control was... Do you mean setbacks for cafe racers? Not for the c 50. It's really not a candidate for cafe styling anyway.


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That Picture looks amazing. My daughter is looking for a bike with the old school cafe racer look and one like you drew would tick all the boxes. Never thought any alteration other that the bobber look would work, once again I am pleased to be surprised.

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By mid controls I mean the brake lever and shifter under you, as opposed to out in front as they are now.
 

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"The vol can't be done."

Gonna have to disagree with Mr. E on this one. I saw threads where the Vol gearing could NOT be changed. Along came Dan Hill, Thanks Dan!!!

So heck figure it out, sure it will not be easy but would like to c 1 .

Edit: Most said gearing could not be changed easily or inexpensively and only saw the in your face solution of "replace the gears". Replacing gears is an expensive hard option but looked logical as only solution at first.
 

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I have to agree with Mr. E with qualification. Anything can be done with enough money and time, but why would you want to? The frame geometry is completely wrong. The motor isn't suited to sport riding. The brakes aren't suited to sport riding. It's too heavy. It has too little ground clearance. It's totally the wrong package to start with.
 

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Yup, remember, I am, at least, old school in all things. You could do all those things to a vol and it still wouldn't be a cafe bike. You can find an old Kwai vert twin for 500 bucks and in six weeks, with some elbow grease, have a pretty sweet cafe racer. But ya gotta have a wheelbase about 4 feet shorter than a vol.

Bobbers are bobbers, cafe racers are cafe racers. We can mod bikes but we cannot make them what they are not... And the vol is just way too long and short to be a cafe bike.


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