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Hiya!

I recently changed the pads on my front brakes and noticed that my brake lights didn't illuminate when I applied either brakes, hand and foot. At the time I thought I had blown the bulb. As I bought a new one I realised it was a Tail/brake bulb. And I've noticed that my tail light is working just not brake light when I apply the breaks.
I don't believe it's the fuse or the brake tail light wouldn't work either ( Though I could be wrong, I'm going to check this later. ) With it not being a simple change of a light bulb I'm not starting to worry it's something that I could of done while changing the pads though I' don't recall anything being a miss.

Can you guys suggest what else I should check for before I end up taking it to the garage? Where I live I'm very paranoid about garages. As I've had bad experiances with them. So I'm trying to avoid it as much as I can. (Goes in with one problem and comes out with five!)

VL800 Limited Edition. <- That's the bike. Just in case it's needed.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Haven't actually looked at one on the c50 but if its like a car bulb doesnt it have a seperate filament for the brake and tail light which means it probably is just the bulb.
 

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Haven't actually looked at one on the c50 but if its like a car bulb doesnt it have a seperate filament for the brake and tail light which means it probably is just the bulb.
You are correct, the brake/tail is a 2 filament bulb so tail could work and no brake.

Kraz, nothing you could have done with the brake change.

Did you swap in the new bulb?

Also look at the inside of the socket for corrosion.

At the brake there is a switch that sometimes needs adjustment/cleaning. Although this would not explain the front brake not lighting the brake light.

I would bet we will be able to help you figure it out without taking it to a garage. Post what you find.
 

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The brake light is fused separately from the taillight. Does your horn work? It is on the same circuit. The front brake switch is in parallel witht he rear brake switch. You would have to have 2 things wrong for both switches to be malfunctioning. More likely it is fuse #5 or the connector/bulb socket as mentioned by Volusia.
 

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Hey guys. Just an update.

The horn works fine and I had changed the bulb and it didn't make a difference. Going to check the fuse later. I'll let you know how I get on.

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I have the same problem. I cut the socket off my rear light to keep from messing-up all the rubber parts of the OEM taillight. I was going to use the socket on my taillight mod but it would not work, so I decided to put the OEM stuff back on so I could ride this Sat and get my tires put on but the brake light wont work now. Everything is exactly as before except for a splice in the wiring.
 

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Go faster than the guy behind you. It becomes a non-issue:lol:

Okay, now that I'm done being a smart ***, do you have a volt meter?
Remove the bulb and check for 12 volts at the socket.
 

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One of the switches isn't stuck on making the stop light stay on all the time is it? This would make it appear not to go on/off when the brakes are applied.
I know because it happened to me when I adjusted the brake pedal height lower which made the stop light stay on all the time and not go on/off as I pressed the brakes. Just thought I had a really bright tail light!:oops:
 

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One of the switches isn't stuck on making the stop light stay on all the time is it? This would make it appear not to go on/off when the brakes are applied.
I know because it happened to me when I adjusted the brake pedal height lower which made the stop light stay on all the time and not go on/off as I pressed the brakes. Just thought I had a really bright tail light!:oops:
Hey. It's really funny you should mention this because I was staring at it today and I thought to myself. 'Is it on constantly?' And then I got myself totally paranoid that it was. I had changed the bulb, the fuse and tried the horn which had worked and I'm running out of options. Even though maybe there was a bad wiring. The connection to the bulb wasn't corroded or anything either.
And I only noticed after I changed my front brake pads. Can you give me a rough idea where to check for these switches? Just follow the cables or anywhere in particular?

The only reason why I dismissed the idea of perhaps my brakes being on all the time was that it didn't look that bright. But! Come to think about it I am looking at it during the day! And when I fitted the new bulb in I stared at it long enough to see that two of the wires were light up. So I'm thinking/hoping that this may be the cause!
 

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Well if both filaments were lit up it appears that one of the switches is stuck or in the case of the rear, out of adjustment.
The rear brake switch is easy to see, its next to the rear brake pedal and is adjustable. The front switch is located under the front brake lever and consists of a little button that moves in and out as you operate the front brake.
 

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One of the switches isn't stuck on making the stop light stay on all the time is it?
...when I fitted the new bulb in I stared at it long enough to see that two of the wires were light up.
Apparently you need to be far enough away to ge the big picture. Good call AC50R.
 

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I had the same problem last year when I had my '04 Volusia (rear brake light wouldn't come one when I pressed the brake pedal). My problem was that the spring that connects the brake pedal to the brake switch (attached to the frame next to the brake pedal) was GONE. Bought a new spring and worked like a champ. Not sure if your problem but make sure the spring is at least there.
 
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Hey guys!
Sorry it's taken so long! I've narrowed down everything I could! And I even took some pictures to try and help with explaining my mad things I've done! But I still haven't fixed the problem and I feel that I'm running out of options.

So here we go! I replaced the fuse with the one that is circled in red and that had no effect with the problem.


I then checked the bulb connections to check for corrotion and such and as you can see from this picture, it looks pretty clean;



And to confirm that both wires were were illuminated I had taken a picture to double check. (The auto thing was able to capture it without hurting my eyes)



So with that I decided that it was the brake light was definetly stuck on! So I checked the the rear brake from the spring and the front brake lever for the switch which were both there and looked operational!







And I also sounded the horn which worked fine which I had stated in a previous post. So this is all the conclusions that I had come too.

I hope the pictures help and sorry for being so long winded? So any last suggestions before surrendering to the garage?

Thanks in advance everyone for being so helpful!
 

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Check the bulb again, are you sure someone didn't jam a 1156 into a 1157 socket?

this is a 1156 (used in rear turn signals) only one connection on the bottom of the bulb



1157 bulb (used in front signals and brake/tail light) note the two connections on the bottom of the bulb
 

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If its not the wrong bulb then do this unplug the wires at the front brake switch first and see if the brake light goes off, if so bad switch, if not plug the wires back up and do the same to the foot brake switch
 

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When you press the brake pedal it pulls the spring, pulling the little plunger out of the switch turning on the brake light. So look at the rear brake light switch, and put ur finger (or something else. Cant remember how accessible it is) on the little plunger and push it into the switch like you're simply pushing a button. See if your brake light goes off when you push the plunger in. Might have to much tension on it. Happened to me once and my brakes were on constant.

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I was gonna say disconnect one brake at a time and find out which one is doing it, but that has already been suggested. I would say it has gotta be a 1157 since a 1156 since the 1156 only has one filiment...So start with disconnecting the brakes one at a time and let us know.
 

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I'm happy to announce that the problem has been resolved! Thanks to you guys for your support and help through it all! No word of a lie, I would have never done it without you all. With your patience and explaining things so I could understand it was finally resolved!

Some of you guys had hit it on the nail and some of you were extremely close.
So the problem;

The spring was too tight which was causing the plunger to be pulled down and illuminating the brake light. Adjusting the spring quickly resolved the problem.

Now even though it was an easy fix and such. The fact that I was able to change the fuses and check the and pull cables ( Which I was scared for my life incase I broke something ) was experiance that I'll be able to always fall back on.

Seriously guys,
Thank you very much for all your help. If I could I'd buy you a beer! :D
 

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I'm happy to announce that the problem has been resolved! Thanks to you guys for your support and help through it all! No word of a lie, I would have never done it without you all. With your patience and explaining things so I could understand it was finally resolved!

Some of you guys had hit it on the nail and some of you were extremely close.
So the problem;

The spring was too tight which was causing the plunger to be pulled down and illuminating the brake light. Adjusting the spring quickly resolved the problem.

Now even though it was an easy fix and such. The fact that I was able to change the fuses and check the and pull cables ( Which I was scared for my life incase I broke something ) was experiance that I'll be able to always fall back on.

Seriously guys,
Thank you very much for all your help. If I could I'd buy you a beer! :D
now that that is taken care of. Diagnostic fee is $20. you can paypal me the money at [email protected]



















:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh: just kidding.











seriously though. paypal...........
 

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Congrats..... It is this site and one other that have taught me everything I know about these bikes, so we are just paying it forward.
 
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