I send some messages out but just in case I don't get a response. I have been reading a few post on here about 13" apes and still using the stock cables. I went ahead and ordered the 13" apes from Phatperformance but looking at my bike yesterday I just don't see the cable length. Maybe they just look short but are long enough for this task. Anyway if anyone has any advise on rerouting the cables, or any little tricks, I would appreciate any help. Thanks.