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Ive been reading various exhaust threads for days and most seem to be a few years old and I would love to hear opinions on a few things.

First I can't stand the stock exhaust (which while riding I can't even hear it), I want something that will be on a scale of 1(stock) to 10(my ears hurt) around 6ish. I love hearing the rumble while I ride and don't worry about people who ride with me because I usually ride at the back anyway and almost all of them have HD with loud pipes so Im not worried about them complaining. I care about my neighbours but I don't rip it in my subdivision and if they don't like a bike at idle well too bad.

Second I know that adding exhaust will require adding intake and ECU in order to provide proper fuel to air ratio and no burn down the mill. With that said what is the most reliable combo people have experienced with intake, pipes and ECU? I am not sure if there are any bike shops with a dyno near me for tuning but I am not opposed to looking and taking it there to be done right.

Third I live in Canada and Ive found a very poor selection of AM parts for an '05 C50 online and if anyone has suggestions where to look Id be appreciative.

From the reading Ive done on here Ive seen there are a few board members who like to chirp people who want "loud and annoying pipes" and if you have sound advice that will help me through the process I would love to hear it but if you are going to tell me how people like me give bikers a bad name with my loud ass pipes or you want to belittle what I want to do, please kick rocks and keep walking.

Thank you for those who reply I look forward to what you have to say. Also Im ok with some 2-1 set ups as I love the Thunderheader sound on HD bikes.
 

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Leave it stock, and it will run better....much longer.
 

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As much as I appreciate the advice, to me there is nothing worse than hearing the engine over the exhaust and my love of riding is because it calms me down. Part of what gives me that calm is the drone of the exhaust. With the stock McDonalds straws I don't get that feeling. But I am also not looking to turn it into a race bike or anything silly, thats why I ask about proper setups that work. I understand more air in requires more air out and vice versa and with more air there is more fuel needed. If done properly it should be able to maintain the same ratios as stock with better performance and continue to have similar longevity.
 

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Too many folk here are/were unsatisfied with the sound of the stock pipes and have made attempts at changing the sound from drilling holes in the pipes to just replacing them with different pipes...sure this is one of those threads that will open up a pandoras box of what others have done and what has worked to satisfy the owner to problems others may have experienced in making/attempting to change the sound. Sure you should find some useful advice by the end of the day. Ride safe.
 

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As much as I appreciate the advice, to me there is nothing worse than hearing the engine over the exhaust and my love of riding is because it calms me down. Part of what gives me that calm is the drone of the exhaust. With the stock McDonalds straws I don't get that feeling. But I am also not looking to turn it into a race bike or anything silly, thats why I ask about proper setups that work. I understand more air in requires more air out and vice versa and with more air there is more fuel needed. If done properly it should be able to maintain the same ratios as stock with better performance and continue to have similar longevity.
Not much help, as I run a K1 with an old fashioned carb, so no need to worry about all this devils-work ECU nonsense. But I have a Kuryakin Hypercharger and Highway Hawk Shorties. After almost a day on the dyno, they were thinking of throwing the carb away and just letting the tank drain straight into the inlet manifold, as they were up to a 200 main jet and drilling it out.

I now convert gasoline to decibels at a fearsome rate. Women faint, small children cry and car alarms go off as I approach. Lovely.
 

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As much as I appreciate the advice, to me there is nothing worse than hearing the engine over the exhaust and my love of riding is because it calms me down. Part of what gives me that calm is the drone of the exhaust. With the stock McDonalds straws I don't get that feeling. But I am also not looking to turn it into a race bike or anything silly, thats why I ask about proper setups that work. I understand more air in requires more air out and vice versa and with more air there is more fuel needed. If done properly it should be able to maintain the same ratios as stock with better performance and continue to have similar longevity.
Here's the problem. It is an 800cc engine. There's nothing you can do to make it sound NICE. Every mod and every aftermarket exhaust just makes the bike LOUD and that really isn't very pleasant. I had the V&H Cruzers on my C50. At idle, they sounded fantastic. Deep, booming bass. But at speed, they were high pitched, raspy and ended up giving me a headache after 30 minutes on the freeway. I ended up buying a set of quiet core baffles which made the noise tolerable, but it still sounded like crap.

As much as you want that Harley "potato-potato" throb, you're not going to get it from these bikes.

The other limitation is there's not much you can do to boost the performance either. Even with an ECU, pipes, a hyper charger intake, DJ drive and professional tune, you're going to get 4-5 more hp. That's it. Not only will it never sound like a Harley, it will never be able to keep up with one, either. (Trust me. I spent 5 years with my throttle pegged trying to keep up with the group before I finally learned that lesson)

So you need to approach this with the understanding that it is going to cost a lot of money, for very little gain. When it comes time to trade the bike, none of the upgrades add any value to the bottom line. So whatever you end up doing, save the stock parts for when it comes time to move on, then you can sell the accessories here - this is a very common occurrence.
 

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Here's the problem. It is an 800cc engine. There's nothing you can do to make it sound NICE. Every mod and every aftermarket exhaust just makes the bike LOUD and that really isn't very pleasant. I had the V&H Cruzers on my C50. At idle, they sounded fantastic. Deep, booming bass. But at speed, they were high pitched, raspy and ended up giving me a headache after 30 minutes on the freeway. I ended up buying a set of quiet core baffles which made the noise tolerable, but it still sounded like crap.

As much as you want that Harley "potato-potato" throb, you're not going to get it from these bikes.

The other limitation is there's not much you can do to boost the performance either. Even with an ECU, pipes, a hyper charger intake, DJ drive and professional tune, you're going to get 4-5 more hp. That's it. Not only will it never sound like a Harley, it will never be able to keep up with one, either. (Trust me. I spent 5 years with my throttle pegged trying to keep up with the group before I finally learned that lesson)

So you need to approach this with the understanding that it is going to cost a lot of money, for very little gain. When it comes time to trade the bike, none of the upgrades add any value to the bottom line. So whatever you end up doing, save the stock parts for when it comes time to move on, then you can sell the accessories here - this is a very common occurrence.
Everything you said isn't falling on deaf ears. First I know that with an 800 I won't get the HD sound or performance and Im ok with that, with that said I am willing to put some (not a fortune but some) money into making the bike into something I will enjoy riding. I have watched tons of youtube vids of pipes and once common theme I found is that everyone does a recording of the bike sitting still and they quickly blip the throttle or rev the piss out of it neither of which sound good. A bike under power while accelerating at a moderate to heavy pace would give the best and most true representation of the actual exhaust note. I think I found 2 such videos and the pipes sounded not bad but I haven't found a dealer in Canada for those specific pipes lol.

Im not trying to increase the performance just make sure the bike performs properly with the mods I make if that makes sense.

I do plan on saving my stock parts and seeing as that I bought this '05 with 19,xxx km for under 3 grand I wouldn't expect a fortune or big return down the road. IF the bike runs well and lasts I hope to use it for the next 5+ years and hopefully longer.

I like the look of the DG Hard Krome Sideburner but the vids are meh at best from what Ive seen and I would love to hear one accelerate and decelerate in an actual riding scenario not in a parking lot. Not sure how loud it would actually be from the videos Ive seen. Sounds good at idle though...where have I heard that recently...
 

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The best after market exhaust ever made for the Vol/C50 were the Roadhouse 2-1's. The company is defunct so they are no longer available. I have only seen a few used ones for sale and they go FAST. What Scrap said about the 800 cc is true but you can get a "decent sound". I tried two things that worked pretty good. I found a set of Cobra head pipes (much larger diameter than OEM) and added a set of HD Sportster (pre-05) mufflers with the center baffle punched out. Sounded real close to a 883 Sportster and looked much better than Suzuki's sewer pipe muffler. About a 4 on your sound scale.

After a while I removed those and put on a set of MC slip on's with a kick-out tip. Absolutely no muffling at all. Pretty loud........I added a set of Big City Thunder baffles into the outlet of the head pipe and got a pretty nice sound. Still a bit loud and required ear plugs for any long distance ride. About a 7 on your sound scale.

Hanger brackets had to be fabbed for both applications..................
 

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Agreed....HK Side Burner is probably the better choice overall.
Another good looking exhaust set-up are the Road Burner 3 inch pipes for C50.
They are similar, but shorter than the HK 3 inch Big Straights which used to be so popular, some 10+ years ago.
 

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I like the look of the DG Hard Krome Sideburner but the vids are meh at best from what Ive seen and I would love to hear one accelerate and decelerate in an actual riding scenario not in a parking lot. Not sure how loud it would actually be from the videos Ive seen. Sounds good at idle though...where have I heard that recently...
Agreed on the HK Side Burner pipe(s).....probably the best all around, current accessory exhaust for Vl800/C50.
Another good looking exhaust set-up are the Road Burner 3 inch pipes for C50.
They are similar to, but shorter than the HK 3 inch Big Straights which used to be so popular, some 10+ years ago.
 

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Agreed on the HK Side Burner pipe(s).....probably the best all around, current accessory exhaust for Vl800/C50.
Another good looking exhaust set-up are the Road Burner 3 inch pipes for C50.
They are similar to, but shorter than the HK 3 inch Big Straights which used to be so popular, some 10+ years ago.
Any suggestions on what retailers sell HK Sideburners or the big straights? Im hoping the exchange rate won't absolutely kill me or I may have to stick to what I can find up here which is limited to Rush 2:2, V&H short shots staggered, V&H cruisers, V&H ProPipe, Cobra street rod and cobra drag pipes. If you ask me the selection is pretty lame up here from what I have seen. Suggestions for retailers north of the border are welcome.
 

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HK Big Straights haven't been crafted for some years.
For HK Sideburners, I'd check ebay pricing first.
 

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Many of the exhausts you mentioned have been discontinued. You can sometime find them used on Ebay or other auction sites.

As for the cost north of the border, be prepared for some sticker shock. You're going to find prices near or over $1000 cdn for aftermarket exhausts. It's really hard to justify spending that much money....

My advice if all you're looking to do is make the bike loud is buy a used exhaust from someone here. Pay the shipping and import duty, then gut the pipes. They will be plenty loud enough to anger all your neighbours and when you get tired of the racket, you can always put the quiet stock pipes back on. The moose in Alberta will thank you.
 

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Many of the exhausts you mentioned have been discontinued. You can sometime find them used on Ebay or other auction sites.

As for the cost north of the border, be prepared for some sticker shock. You're going to find prices near or over $1000 cdn for aftermarket exhausts. It's really hard to justify spending that much money....

My advice if all you're looking to do is make the bike loud is buy a used exhaust from someone here. Pay the shipping and import duty, then gut the pipes. They will be plenty loud enough to anger all your neighbours and when you get tired of the racket, you can always put the quiet stock pipes back on. The moose in Alberta will thank you.
Im not sure if you think you are funny but I am from Ontario not Alberta. I have found Cobra's and V&H here new from retailers for between 650-800 but they don't offer the selection that exists or used to exist in the US.

If I felt that I would "get tired of the racket" I would stick with stock pipes.

You seem to be the Debbie Downer of the group
 

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He's not as much of a "downer" as you think..........he's just truthful and sometimes the truth hurts. If you want a HD sound you'll have to buy a HD or at least a large Yamaha (1700 Star). The Suzy can sound okay with work but never "awesome".
 

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Here's the thing. If you think sitting in the saddle and listening to an 130db exhaust drone at 4000+ rpm for long periods of time is pleasant, then I suggest you try it before you buy it.

Loud pipes on small bikes doesn't work because the motors are small, the power is limited and the gearing is very low to compensate.

You want deep, booming bass, which you can get at idle. The trouble is, you can't ride the bike at idle all the time. It goes from a pleasant rumble to someone torturing elephants pretty quickly. The resulting tone just exacerbates how high you have to spin the mill to get it up to speed. It isn't pretty. And I'm aware of the geographic separation of Ontario and Alberta. The moose in Alberta will thank you....
 

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If you're looking for a LOUD 2:1 exhaust, I have a Jardine 2:1 with the original megaphone plus I'll add a second muffler (fishtail) that's just slightly quieter.
They both were just to loud for me. The megaphone gave me a headache after 15 min. The fishtail got to me after roughly 25 min.
I'm asking $150 plus shipping and duties.

I only used them for about 2 months.
 

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If you're looking for a LOUD 2:1 exhaust, I have a Jardine 2:1 with the original megaphone plus I'll add a second muffler (fishtail) that's just slightly quieter.
They both were just to loud for me. The megaphone gave me a headache after 15 min. The fishtail got to me after roughly 25 min.
I'm asking $150 plus shipping and duties.

I only used them for about 2 months.
I have ridden behind two Suzuki 800's with "BAD" exhaust. Bad meaning you couldn't get far enough behind to be comfortable. One was Cobra Straights without baffles and the other was 2-1 Jardines "with" baffles. Not just loud but really annoyingly, obnoxiously sounding. Pretty hard to describe........I don't really mind finger nails on a chalk board but these were bad..........

 

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I bought the Jardine off a member here. He had bought it for his wife. Go figure. He had then stored in original boxes. Figured she didn't have them on long.
 
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