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Are amber spot/flood lights better than LED/halogen white?

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Background story:

I'm installing Twisted Throttle Denali DR1 Single Intensity LED Lighting Kit on my 2008 C50. They are currently on sale for $70(!), including wiring harness and handlebar switch. There is a plethora of fairly expensive Denali mounting solutions available for most motorcycle, but I don't like any of them :biglaugh:, so I will be using Memphis Shades Turn Signal Relocation Kit MEM9996.

Denali DR1 can be easily converted to Amber from its stock white (clear lens). Advertisement states it is better in fog/rain due to filtering out blue wave from visible light www.twistedthrottle.com, manufacturer.

I don't have any experience with amber spot/fog lights, and see very few cars on the road with them. I have never seen a motorcycle with amber spot lights. Any time I see bright amber fog lights on highway, they stand-out and attract attention - might be a benefit for increased motorcycle awareness to cagers.

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Make sure theres enough space between them and your turn signals or your signals could blend in and not be seen.
That is a good point! I was planning to install them right under the head light, now I will have to reconsider the location or keep them white. Any feedback to what is the benefit of amber spot lights?
 

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I've always heard that amber was better in foggy conditions. Not sure if that is really true. Since the vast majority of your riding will be in non foggy conditions I would go with white as an adjunct to your headlight. I had spot lights on both my older Goldwings and I aimed them just to the left and right of where the low beam headlight hit the road, aimed low to not interfere with oncoming driver's vision. Aimed like that they really brightened up my path at night. And as an added bonus when I switched to high beams the spots stayed on and the road was really well illuminated.
 

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Agree with Dean. Amber is superior in fog, but, even better in snow.....of course, most folks don't ride in the snow. :wink:
 

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There's a reason headlights are white and fog lights are yellow.


Amber is better for fog. If you're looking to increase your presence, go with amber.


After riding through New Hampshire at night I bought white because I wanted to see everything in front of me.
 

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I think white is best for night riding. Where I live, once off the island there are just too many deer so my night riding is almost never. In my opinion, two things make you noticeable in the daytime, a white helmet ( first reaction is you are a motorcycle cop) and the amber lights ( they don't know what you are).
 

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been using ambers on my spots for years...more of a safety issue than anything...just another way to catch the eye of an oncoming vehicle.
 

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I think white is best for night riding. Where I live, once off the island there are just too many deer so my night riding is almost never. In my opinion, two things make you noticeable in the daytime, a white helmet ( first reaction is you are a motorcycle cop) and the amber lights ( they don't know what you are).
White helmet = cop, lol. I like it :) I've actually covered my license plate bracket holder holes with blue reflectors after doing the license plate drop mode. Not sure how visible they are (about 1" in diameter, angled 45` up), but the thought of people thinking I'm a cop, and hopefully backing off is great. I also have a Helite Turtle airbag vest in Hi-Viz, and the reflective tape is dope.

 

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For now, I'm leaning towards keeping the lights white and adding a "True-Hybrid" lens that spreads the light much wider, but doesn't sacrifice as much of the throw. Contrary to most regular flood lights with deflectors covering the whole beam, middle of the light (where it is most intense) stays open, and sides have vertical deflectors. I might experiment with keeping one spot lens and and one with "True-Hybrid". Denali makes True-Hybrid lens in amber as well, and if I get convinced that amber lights are better, I'll just swap to amber.

Most of my riding is done in city/urban conditions, and running focus spot lights with 1,000+ feet total range (about 650 feet effective range) is a total overkill.

Here is what the manufacturer has to say about it:

"The spot lens produces the greatest beam distance, while the True-Hybrid™ lens produces a broader spread of light closer to the motorcycle, filling the road edge and shoulders. This lens splits the difference between a normal spot and a conventional flood pattern, giving you the best of both worlds. And for even more flexibility, you can install just one of the True-Hybrid™ lenses to retain a little more distance coverage. The True-Hybrid™ lenses are E-Marked to be road legal in countries where this is a requirement."

 

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I don't get that intense with my thinking. I have white on my Harley. It came with white. I put white on my Nomad. I never spent that much in accessories for my C50 since I knew it was a stepping stone to a larger bike.
 

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I don't get that intense with my thinking. I have white on my Harley. It came with white. I put white on my Nomad. I never spent that much in accessories for my C50 since I knew it was a stepping stone to a larger bike.
breezer: I agree with you on not spending much on a beginner bike (at least beginner for me). This is why I bought a 10 year old bike. So far I've only invested into safety-related upgrades (LEDs to be seen and see and Highway Bars) as well as a few comfort upgrades (OEM windshield and lower fork deflectors both bought at a significant discount), plus maintenance that wasn't done by the previous owners.

I would never pay the original MSRP for Denali DR1 ($350 US) to be installed on an old beginner bike, nor would I buy the OEM light bar at similar MSRP. At $75 US, plus $30-$50 US for mounting brackets, Denali DR1 is a universal part and can be transferred to any other motorcycle in the future.

At the same time, cheap purchases end up costing three times the original price. This is why I'm going with Denali DR1 - the build quality is great, it is a US based company with outstanding service (speak to Keith G.), and I'm only 3 hours away from their store in case if sh*t heats the fan :shades:
 

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I would like the one that enhances night travel the best.
This is what I'm trying to figure out :smile2: : are Amber lights better than White for night riding? So far, it seems amber lights only help in rain, fog and snow. These are less relevant to me, since I'm not riding in the rain, unless I have no choice. I'm not comfortable riding in the fog (at least yet) and definitely not going to ride in the snow.
 

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my experience will tell you the white will give off more light...I used the 4411 amber spots on my previous rides, when I got the c90 I now own I went with peel and stick lens covers...have worked well... can't remember the company...but similar products that do the same

https://www.amazon.com/LinkedGo-Inches-Adhesive-Headlights-Taillight/dp/B01NC3D15T/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1544122034&sr=8-24&keywords=amber+lens+film+cover

at worst if you don't feel its what you want, its simple and quick to remove and then you have the white lens...
 

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my experience will tell you the white will give off more light...I used the 4411 amber spots on my previous rides, when I got the c90 I now own I went with peel and stick lens covers...have worked well... can't remember the company...but similar products that do the same

https://www.amazon.com/LinkedGo-Inches-Adhesive-Headlights-Taillight/dp/B01NC3D15T/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1544122034&sr=8-24&keywords=amber+lens+film+cover

at worst if you don't feel its what you want, its simple and quick to remove and then you have the white lens...
That is handy! I will definitely consider it, thanks!

Twisted Throttle sells amber lenses for about $5-7 each, or a kit with 2 types x2 lenses each for $25 (four lenses). Separate lenses aren't listed on the website - need to call in.
 

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I have white aux lights. Even though aux, they're always on. (Clearwater Darla--pricey, but really nice.) I have the slip-on amber covers that I can easily put on them when in rain or fog.
 
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