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Holy crap, dude. Epic post! Absolutely EPIC!!
 
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Holy crap, dude. Epic post! Absolutely EPIC!!
I wish that was mine, but it was a copy pasta. I read it and thought it pretty much nailed it. I'm tired of being punched in the face, but I know my wife is even more tired of running, so I'll keep taking the punches.
 

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What’s it like to go through cancer treatment? It’s something like this: one day, you’re minding your own business, you open the fridge to get some breakfast, and OH MY GOD THERE’S A MOUNTAIN LION IN YOUR FRIDGE.

Wait, what? How? Why is there a mountain lion in your fridge? NO TIME TO EXPLAIN. RUN! THE MOUNTAIN LION WILL KILL YOU! UNLESS YOU FIND SOMETHING EVEN MORE FEROCIOUS TO KILL IT FIRST!

So you take off running, and the mountain lion is right behind you. You know the only thing that can kill a mountain lion is a bear, and the only bear is on top of the mountain, so you better find that bear. You start running up the mountain in hopes of finding the bear. Your friends desperately want to help, but they are powerless against mountain lions, as mountain lions are godless killing machines. But they really want to help, so they’re cheering you on and bringing you paper cups of water and orange slices as you run up the mountain and yelling at the mountain lion - “GET LOST, MOUNTAIN LION, NO ONE LIKES YOU” - and you really appreciate the support, but the mountain lion is still coming.

Also, for some reason, there’s someone in the crowd who’s yelling “that’s not really a mountain lion, it’s a puma” and another person yelling “I read that mountain lions are allergic to kale, have you tried rubbing kale on it?”

As you’re running up the mountain, you see other people fleeing their own mountain lions. Some of the mountain lions seem comparatively wimpy - they’re half grown and only have three legs or whatever, and you think to yourself - why couldn’t I have gotten one of those mountain lions? But then you look over at the people who are fleeing mountain lions the size of a monster truck with huge prehistoric saber fangs, and you feel like an asshole for even thinking that - and besides, who in their right mind would want to fight a mountain lion, even a three-legged one?

Finally, the person closest to you, whose job it is to take care of you - maybe a parent or sibling or best friend or, in my case, my husband - comes barging out of the woods and jumps on the mountain lion, whaling on it and screaming “GODDAMMIT MOUNTAIN LION, STOP TRYING TO EAT MY WIFE,” and the mountain lion punches your husband right in the face. Now your husband (or whatever) is rolling around on the ground clutching his nose, and he’s bought you some time, but you still need to get to the top of the mountain.

Eventually you reach the top, finally, and the bear is there. Waiting. For both of you. You rush right up to the bear, and the bear rushes the mountain lion, but the bear has to go through you to get to the mountain lion, and in doing so, the bear TOTALLY KICKS YOUR ASS, but not before it also punches your husband in the face. And your husband is now staggering around with a black eye and bloody nose, and saying “can I get some help, I’ve been punched in the face by two apex predators and I think my nose is broken,” and all you can say is “I’M KIND OF BUSY IN CASE YOU HADN’T NOTICED I’M FIGHTING A MOUNTAIN LION.”

Then, IF YOU ARE LUCKY, the bear leaps on the mountain lion and they are locked in epic battle until finally the two of them roll off a cliff edge together, and the mountain lion is dead.

Maybe.

You’re not sure - it fell off the cliff, but mountain lions are crafty. It could come back at any moment.

And all your friends come running up to you and say “that was amazing! You’re so brave, we’re so proud of you! You didn’t die! That must be a huge relief!”

Meanwhile, you blew out both your knees, you’re having an asthma attack, you twisted your ankle, and also you have been mauled by a bear. And everyone says “boy, you must be excited to walk down the mountain!” And all you can think as you stagger to your feet is “Fuck this mountain, I never wanted to climb it in the first place.”
 

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Just had the home health nurse come by and I made her train me on de-accessing my wife's port. I'll admit that it's a bit scary, but was kind of cool at the same time. Since she's getting her antibiotics through her port daily, she's stuck walking around with her dongle dangling all the time and the bandage on it was starting to irritate her over the weekend. At least now, I can de-access it for her this Sunday, after she gets her meds for the day, and the home health nurse can re-access it on Monday when she comes to do blood work. That will give my wife at least one night of peace and a shower a week where she doesn't have to cover herself in Saran Wrap first.

I swear, I am suddenly finding the "and all other tasks needed" clause in our wedding contract is experiencing a lot of scope creep. I may need to renegotiate soon.
 

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Oh, wow! I just went through the bills for the hospital. It turns out that the 9 day stay my wife just had at the hospital wasn't the most expensive. It was only $80k, but the initial diagnosis visit back in December for 6 days was $108k. Some interesting things I noted though.

One of my wife's chemo drugs, oxaliplatin, cost $5k for each infusion.
When my wife is getting a chemo infusion, they are billing $1k an hour.
While she was in the hospital, her WBC count dropped and they gave her a drug to bring it back up. That drug was $2k a pop.
The drug had a side effect of causing bone pain, which they gave her a drug to alleviate. The drug to alleviate the bone pain was $1,500 a pop.
The hospital room itself costs $1,500 a day.
The doctors were billing $300/hr for visiting her in her room and minimum appears to be 25 minutes, although I don't recall a doctor staying in her room more than 10.
The stent they put on her pancreas cost $8,500.
The 3 platinum markers they put around her tumor to target the radiation gun on cost $2,500
A CT scan of the abdomen, with and without contrast, cost $8k

It's insane to see these prices actually printed out. I think I'm in the wrong business.
 

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But it's money well spent to have your main squeeze.
You are not wrong on that. Plus, as an added bonus, I can now tell my wife that I've spent over a quarter of a million dollars on her whenever she complains about me buying new motorcycles farkles. 🤣
 

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wonder what happens to those w/o insurance?
 

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Usually, medical bankruptcy.
 

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It's insane to see these prices actually printed out. I think I'm in the wrong business.
I work for a hospital. "Oh, hospitals makes lots of money!" Bullcrap they do.

"Then the doctors make all the money." Bullcrap they do.

The money in U.S. medicine is all in the clutches of the insurance companies. Don't believe any differently.

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Don't make yourself too nuts sweating the paperwork, Whiskey. It'll all settle out in the long run, without much intervention. Call it sad, or amusing, or nauseating, and then file it. Save your energy for the stuff that's within your control.
 
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I work for a hospital. "Oh, hospitals makes lots of money!" Bullcrap they do.

"Then the doctors make all the money." Bullcrap they do.

The money in U.S. medicine is all in the clutches of the insurance companies. Don't believe any differently.

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Don't make yourself too nuts sweating the paperwork, Whiskey. It'll all settle out in the long run, without much intervention. Call it sad, or amusing, or nauseating, and then file it. Save your energy for the stuff that's within your control.
Oh, I'm not sweating it. I actually did that to kill time. I'm a weirdly curious person and tend to peek behind the curtain any time I get a chance. I think we have problems with the healthcare industry in this country, but I am definitely not one who thinks the doctors and hospitals are getting rich. If I had to guess, it's the drug companies and medical supply manufacturers. I would not be surprised in the least to find out that the $2k drug they gave my wife cost them $1,800. That $8,500 stent probably cost them $8k. The doctors billing $300/hr are probably paying $200/hr to cover their malpractice coverage because people sue for any dumb thing they can come up with in this country.

I definitely don't want this to turn into a political thread. I was just pointing out numbers that I found interesting and thought others might too.
 

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I work for a hospital. "Oh, hospitals makes lots of money!" Bullcrap they do.

"Then the doctors make all the money." Bullcrap they do.

The money in U.S. medicine is all in the clutches of the insurance companies. Don't believe any differently.

<Steps off soap box>

Don't make yourself too nuts sweating the paperwork, Whiskey. It'll all settle out in the long run, without much intervention. Call it sad, or amusing, or nauseating, and then file it. Save your energy for the stuff that's within your control.
I use to work at a hospital. I hated it, not the right environment for me. Yes,insurance companies medical, liability insurance for nurses and doctors. If a hospital is listed as non or not for profit, they have to by law (around here) take 30% of their profits and submit it back to the community. So, free health clinics, patients who can’t pay and also donations to community groups to better the community is all counted.
Interesting thing I learned. If you go in for a test and pay out of pocket you pay one price while the insurance companies pay another price. Why, because they bring their members into that hospital and get a discount on the amount of members they have.
 

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Whiskey, my apologies -- I didn't mean to get something started by tossing in my 2 cents' worth.
 
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