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Low speed maneuvering figures/requirements/dimensions

Hi guys,

does anyone have info or know where to find the dimensions of the figures for slow speeds maneuvering tests for MSF test and even better police training test. I went couple of times to the parking lot just to better learn my bike and found out that I really like those slow speeds maneuvering figures. now that I got a little better at it I would like to live up to some official standards/requirements of the motorcycle proficiency.

I know some may say just go to the MSF venue and they have everything drawn on the asphalt. but I live in NY and everything is locked and fenced here even lines on the asphalt hahah.

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Take the course.

Buy the book.

Or...

https://www.ridelikeapro.com/wp-cont...cticeGuide.pdf
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Cool...a pdf practice guide. But yeah, take the course.

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Absolutely, I will take the course in spring before a new season. Now however, it is also very nice to go and leisurely exercise/have fun on a parking lot. I bought a lot of red plastic cups. Fill them a little with water and there we go - perfect cones.
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Makes sense to me. Plus a lot cheaper and easy to carry than those stupid cones.
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Hi guys,

does anyone have info or know where to find the dimensions of the figures for slow speeds maneuvering tests for MSF test and even better police training test. I went couple of times to the parking lot just to better learn my bike and found out that I really like those slow speeds maneuvering figures. now that I got a little better at it I would like to live up to some official standards/requirements of the motorcycle proficiency.

I know some may say just go to the MSF venue and they have everything drawn on the asphalt. but I live in NY and everything is locked and fenced here even lines on the asphalt hahah.

Thank you!
Typically, the maneuvering course is set up to mimic the width of a standard residential street, roughly 24 feet wide. All of the drills are intended to be done within the confines of that space or HALF that space, for drills in the lane of travel only. The hardest I find is the "box of death" which is slightly smaller than 24 feet wide and you have to ride in a figure 8, without going outside the box, or putting your feet down. There are other drills as well, including stopping, obstacle avoidance and riding over stuff. It is hard to duplicate the course without the painted cues on the asphalt, but you can generally get close.

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The hardest I find is the "box of death" which is slightly smaller than 24 feet wide and you have to ride in a figure 8, without going outside the box, or putting your feet down.
Definitely! I took the MSF course when I returned to riding a few years ago. I dumped that little Suzuki 250 several times while learning/practicing that box because I refused to put my feet down - just rode the bike down when I lost it! There's definitely a reason those MSF course bikes have the mirrors and turn signals removed! I did manage to successfully complete that awful box when the time came to take the final test. I don't think I could do it on my C50, though. In fact I wonder if a C50 is even capable of turning that tight?

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Definitely! I took the MSF course when I returned to riding a few years ago. I dumped that little Suzuki 250 several times while learning/practicing that box because I refused to put my feet down - just rode the bike down when I lost it! There's definitely a reason those MSF course bikes have the mirrors and turn signals removed! I did manage to successfully complete that awful box when the time came to take the final test. I don't think I could do it on my C50, though. In fact I wonder if a C50 is even capable of turning that tight?
The MSF Experienced Rider Course is done on your own bike. It too, involved the "Box of death". Yes, the humble little C50 can manage to make the turn. It is a matter of lean and application of throttle. Just need to feather the clutch, give it gas, lean it over and forget you have brakes....

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start wide...master it,,then just move the clones closer as your skills improve...before you know it, you'll have it mastered...just remember to keep looking over your shoulder and use the foot brake only..experiment with different techniques also.

Whats the big hurry...slow down and enjoy the ride!

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Fill the cups with beer. Then pick them up as you pass and drink them. If you finish the course, you should be good.

FWIW I have lowering bones and 4" forward controls. I scraped floorboards three times just on my ride to work this morning and can do a full steering lock turn.
Don't be afraid to lean.
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