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Question Corbin Dual Tour Seat - Is it any good?

Hi,
I came across a Corbin Dual Tour Seat for sale and looking for your opinion?

-> How does the aforementioned Corbin compare to stock C50 2008 seat?
-> Is the seat changing rider's position: pushing up/down and moving back/forward relative to OEM seat?
-> Comfort wise, how does it compare to Mustang / Ultimate seats?
-> And lastly, I'm 6'2", long legs and skinny behind: will it fit me?

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I purchased a Corbin seat a bit over a year ago for my Vic.
It looks great!
It cost a fortune.
My ass likes it for about 20 minutes.
I'm beginning to think it will never soften up.

I think my butt will conform to this seat before the seat conforms to my butt.

I have an ultimate on my C-50.
Get the ultimate.
There is no better seat.

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I purchased a Corbin seat a bit over a year ago for my Vic.
It looks great!
It cost a fortune.
My ass likes it for about 20 minutes.
I'm beginning to think it will never soften up.

I think my butt will conform to this seat before the seat conforms to my butt.

I have an ultimate on my C-50.
Get the ultimate.
There is no better seat.
Hi, thanks for the reply! I'm leaning towards Ultimate myself... just don't know if it will push me forward and lower the seating position too much?

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Hi, thanks for the reply! I'm leaning towards Ultimate myself... just don't know if it will push me forward and lower the seating position too much?
The ultimate will most likely lower you a little, forward, maybe not so much.

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The ultimate will most likely lower you a little, forward, maybe not so much.
I bought two seats:
A brand new Ultimate Midrider solo, no backrest (have a compatible backrest already) and a used Corbin Dual Touring with a single backrest.
Winner stays on the bike, and looser either returned or will be put up for sale on this site.

Installed Ultimate Midrider yesterday, and rode to work today - 30 minutes mixed city/highway with some traffic. My ride was very short, so it is too early to tell how I feel about the seat. If I were to summarize: the below bullet-points: I wasn't expecting the Ultimate seat to be so much different from the stock seat, and I have to say I was very surprised Can't wait to go on a longer ride.

A few things I've noticed right off the bet:

1) Seat is a few inches wider and feels beefier, more substantial that the stock seat. Didn't put it on the scale, but it is definitely heavier that the stock seat.
2) A lot more padding than stock studded seat that came with my 2008 C50 SE. Padding feels stiffer, more supportive.
3) I can't say that I'm seating inside the seat, but it definitely envelopes my tookies, and redistributes the weight very differently from stock.
4) I feel that I'm seating a little bit taller (1/2"-1"). Definitely a plus for me (6'3").
5) Ride feels completely different, more disconnected from the bike that my stock seat. Again, I've only rode for about 30 minutes today.
6) Seat is wider in the tank area. Cushion extends a few inches on top of the tank, and envelopes the pointy end of the tear-drop.
7) At a traffic light, when I put down my legs, there is more pressure on the inside of my thighs. Might be a bit uncomfortable for shorter riders, but again, I've only rode for 30 minutes, so too early to say.
8 ) On the highway, I felt like I'm leaned back a little, actually leaning against the backrest rather than being pushed onto it when I accelerated while on the stock seat.
9) If you rock the "solo rider mode" like I do: there is a unsightly bracket sticking out and up from the back of the seat. It can be had in chrome for extra $45 though. Bracket is covered if you buy a passenger pillion.
10) Seat does not interfere with my modded helmet lock (moved to the right bottom side under the knee - see pictures) or my Helite airbag vest tether looped around the frame in the same area.
11) The support tub is very thick, but not sure if it is thicker than the stock seat's. Haven't measured, but there are a few vent holes on the bottom, and it is substantial, maybe 1/2". Here is a quote from manufacturer:
Since 2005, our new base pans are built using a revolutionary process of injection molded fiber reinforced rigid urethane. This provides a solid, yet semi flexible support for our one piece molded memory foam cushions. Our pans are very strong and lightweight. Rubber contact pads are included on the bottom where ever the pan touches the motorcycles frame."

Pictures attached. Last picture is of the stock seat.
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Update on Ultimate Midrider seat: rode for about 80 miles tonight. Made a few short stops, got off at one point for about 10 minutes.

This seat is wonderful (!) for long distance riding, or longer commutes. Today was the first time in 8 months of Suzuki C50 ownership that I've truly enjoined myself on a longer ride. Before today, I couldn't imagine myself riding hundreds of miles a day. With Ultimate seat, yes, this is totally fine. It does come at a cost of almost $400 for a solo seat without a backrest, but it is worth it...

If you do most of the riding in city, with very frequent stops, leaner stock C50 seat is fine, or if a touch of style is important, go with Corbin Young guns or similar. This is primarily due to the seat pushing into the back of the leg during stops, and need to readjust seating position from leaned back and chilling to a more upright ready to act position. I'm 6'3", and have forward controls, so that has something to with readjusting the position during stops as well. If a tall rider has skinnier legs than me, seat width is probably a non-issue whatsoever.

After riding some mild twistiest today, I felt very confident that the seat did kept me centered and balanced, cradled and not disconnect from the bike as it fell at first. I stayed in full control and enjoined it.

Considering Ultimate Seats has a 14 day trial, most you would lose is shipping costs - a small price to pay for comfort and being able to fully enjoy your cruiser.

Next seat test this weekend: Dual Touring Saddle with backrest.

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Impression on Corbin Dual Touring Saddle with Backrest for Suzuki C50

The first impression is that this seat is very-very well made! It screams quality in every touch. The thought and ingenuity that went into the seat is very impressive! Seat pan is very high quality and upholstery panes are stitched exactly right: fit and finish is impeccable.

Driver's portion of the saddle is deep, and actually lowers rider a bit compared to stock seat. For a tall rider like myself (6'3") on a Suzuki C50, this is a negative rather than a benefit. My eye level dropped from an inch above Suzuki's C50 OEM windshield to about level with the top of the windshield. Passenger portion of the seat is wider than stock, and has good cushion.

There is less padding on the driver's portion of the saddle compared to Ultimate Midrider seat: Corbin relies on the shape of the saddle to redistribute the weight and eliminate hot spots rather than excessive padding. Corbin's distinctive feature is the shape of the saddle: I feel that I am locked in place better that with Ultimate Midrider seat. Rider seats deeply inside the saddle, rather than on top of it. I can imagine this being a great benefit on windy roads. Additionally, the lower back support is a lot more pronounced compared to Ultimate Midrider, since rider seats deeper in the Corbin saddle than on the on a Suzuki OEM seat or an Ultimate Midrider seat. Saddle lower back support (aside from the backrest) is padded and should be enough for most riders even without a dedicated backrest. The front lip of the seat tapers up drastically and provides further support in the front. When at the traffic light, both feet down, there is no pressure on the back side of the leg. While I felt this was a bit of an issue with Ultimate Midrider, I don't think so anymore.

My seat came with a back-rest, originally installed for the passenger. It is substantial and also build extremely well. Backrest cushion pivots forward for on-boarding, and there is a hex bolt that limits how much the backrest tilts back. Same backrest fits both the passenger and the driver, which is nice. For driver, there is a spring-loaded mechanism inside the seat allowing for the whole backrest assembly to pivot forward; that is in addition to the backrest cushion pivoting forward as well. There is no backrest quick release: in my opinion a quick release is not necessary and is actually a good theft deterrent.

Corbin Dual Tour saddle drops-in easily and is affixed with a single bolt on the top of the back fender (where OEM passenger seat is normally held in place). This is nice for a quick on-off if you rock a solo seat from time to time, and need a dedicated two-up seat. It took me a lot longer to affix the Ultimate Midrider with an aftermarket backrest due to limited space available for hex wrench. Note: it is not a factor if you don't have an aftermarket backrest like I do (see pictures above).

Riding experience is completely different from OEM or Ultimate Midrider seat. Corbin Dual Tour saddle is firmer, and envelopes the rider. At the same time Corbin saddle leaves a bit of space for forward and back movement in case if you would need to change the position.

Overall, Corbin Dual Tour is a great Suzuki C50 seat, and I understand why Corbing charges so much for a brand new ($900 US) saddle in the configuration I have. Ultimately, it comes down to your preference and riding style, as well as how tall you are. Corbin Dual Tour is lowering me a bit: at 6’3”, long legs and bonny behind it puts me in a position that doesn’t suit me well.

After testing both seat, Ultimate Midrider is a better choice for me, and that is what I will keep on my C50. Corbin Dual Tour with Corbin backrest will be for sale on this forum shortly.

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I had one on a 1500 Kawasaki Classic for a couple of years...........hard as a board. A perfectly contoured board though. I thought it was quite comfy when used with an Air Hawk pad. Nice and low and a deep pocket with enough rise to the passenger section to act as a rider backrest.

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