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Surge on Cold Startup

So when I start my bike first thing in the morning with the clutch pulled in sort of surges or jerks forward a bit. I did a full clutch adjustment yesterday but it did it again today. Any ideas?

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start in neutral...
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I know I can start in neutral. I have to have it in gear as I park on a small hill. I just didn't feel that this was right.

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I don't know if this is a "thing" with all Boulevards, but my C50 has always behaved the same way.

It feels like the clutch becomes slightly engaged after the bike has cooled down for a good while, then the bike does a little jump forward when it's started again.
After that, everything operates normally.

It doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it's annoying. My solution has been to rock the bike forward or backward just a bit...You'll feel it disengaging and the bike will roll freely.

Then start it. No surge. It's easier than hunting for Neutral, too.

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If you start the bike in gear, with cold oil, the clutch plates will momentarily stick and will cause the bike to surge forward a bit. You can either learn to start the bike in neutral or live with it.

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I never start my bikes in gear.
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I never start my bikes in gear.
+1. Even in situations where I have to leave my bike in gear when I park (such as on a hill), I ALWAYS pull the bike upright, raise the side stand, use the front brake to hold the bike still, then put it into neutral and start.
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That's completely normal. Every wet clutch bike is like that. Why there's a noticeable "clunk" when you put it in first gear when the engine is cold, and it mostly goes away when it warms up. Colder/thicker oil creates more drag between the clutch discs.

I'd put it in neutral. That's hard on the starter and if the plates stick together, entirely possible the bike will shoot out from under you, seen that happen once or twice.
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Sounds like the clutch is sticking. Mine has done it. Try doing this:
1) Before starting, hold the clutch in while the bike is in gear.
2) Now rock the bike back and fourth while sitting on it.
If that breaks the clutch free, and you can start it without the 'surge', then your clutch was sticking.

If that solves the problem, you might try changing the oil to a thinner viscosity, or you'll just have to get used to starting it in neutral.
Hope this helps

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