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Well that didn't help me. I'm still totally confused!
I was actually hoping that the two positives from the lights would be spliced together, but I wasn't expecting them to be spliced into the positive from the light switch too (as well as the negatives). I'm guessing I'm gonna have to do some wire cutting and rewire things, which I REALLY HATE to do.
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Don't give up. A relay isn't necessary. Main concern is a separate fused power feed to the lights so not to over task the ign switch. Stock OEM lightbar uses the connector in headlight bucket for ground and positive 12V to switch. Replace those wires with fused power from battery and a better ground. With this setup you would need to turn lightbar on and off as having no relay you are wired directly to battery. There you are done. You can add a relay if desired. Relay is mainly needed for controlling higher amperage and/or voltage with lower amperage and/or devices. An example is the horn. The stock horn button wouldn't last long controlling a high amp horn like a stebel. Also, it allows switching on with bikes power. Making it more convenient to use.

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Don't give up. A relay isn't necessary. Main concern is a separate fused power feed to the lights so not to over task the ign switch. Stock OEM lightbar uses the connector in headlight bucket for ground and positive 12V to switch. Replace those wires with fused power from battery and a better ground. With this setup you would need to turn lightbar on and off as having no relay you are wired directly to battery. There you are done. You can add a relay if desired. Relay is mainly needed for controlling higher amperage and/or voltage with lower amperage and/or devices. An example is the horn. The stock horn button wouldn't last long controlling a high amp horn like a stebel. Also, it allows switching on with bikes power. Making it more convenient to use.

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Well that didn't help me. I'm still totally confused!
Dane, if he doesn't use a relay and wires his lights directly to the battery on their own circuit, anyone who walks by can flip the switch and the lights come on without needing an ignition key. Or, you forget the lights when you leave the bike because they don't turn off when the ignition goes off. I think a relay goes way beyond "convenience", wouldn't you agree?

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DONE!!!!! Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get it working with the relay, so instead of breaking things and making it worse, I just wired directly to the battery. Works like a charm. Hopefully I remember to shut them off every time. Oh well, I guess a dead battery is better than a burned out ignition switch! Big thanks to everyone who's posted about this stuff for those of us who don't know what we're doing, and especially to Carsten who talked me through it on the phone last night!!

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DONE!!!!! Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get it working with the relay, so instead of breaking things and making it worse, I just wired directly to the battery. Works like a charm. Hopefully I remember to shut them off every time. Oh well, I guess a dead battery is better than a burned out ignition switch! Big thanks to everyone who's posted about this stuff for those of us who don't know what we're doing, and especially to Carsten who talked me through it on the phone last night!!
John, well sorry to hear the relay didn't work out, but I'm glad you got the lights to work anyway. I asked BIKERPOP to PM you about the Mid-Atlantic Rally so if you attend, you can ask people there to check into the relay again if you wish - still find it the safest way. I just ordered a special relay (DPST Relay with yet another contact to switch TWO circuits at once, one for the lights and one for the cigarette lighter) but let's not get into that LOL. Was very nice talking to you last night, John.

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Actually that is a very good drawing of how to connect the wiring for your lights so that you don't burn out your ignition.

I added a 4 pt distribution fuse box to mine so that I could run more things off of the battery power but wanted to make sure that everything turned off when I shut it down.

It works great. I have my heated grips, aux lights, and 12V outlet off of this. It works the same way as your fuse box for all the other wiring.
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Actually that is a very good drawing of how to connect the wiring for your lights so that you don't burn out your ignition.

I added a 4 pt distribution fuse box to mine so that I could run more things off of the battery power but wanted to make sure that everything turned off when I shut it down.

It works great. I have my heated grips, aux lights, and 12V outlet off of this. It works the same way as your fuse box for all the other wiring.
Where'd you get the other fuse box, and where'd you install it?

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Actually that is a very good drawing of how to connect the wiring for your lights so that you don't burn out your ignition.

I added a 4 pt distribution fuse box to mine so that I could run more things off of the battery power but wanted to make sure that everything turned off when I shut it down.

It works great. I have my heated grips, aux lights, and 12V outlet off of this. It works the same way as your fuse box for all the other wiring.
That is actually a great idea if you plan to add more than one or two add'l accessories. Let me guess, the second fuse box is regulated through a relay that's switched by the ignition to give power to that second fuse box, correct?

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That is actually a great idea if you plan to add more than one or two add'l accessories. Let me guess, the second fuse box is regulated through a relay that's switched by the ignition to give power to that second fuse box, correct?
Ok, nevermind. I'll never even attempt that! LOL.
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That is actually a great idea if you plan to add more than one or two add'l accessories. Let me guess, the second fuse box is regulated through a relay that's switched by the ignition to give power to that second fuse box, correct?
Ok, nevermind. I'll never even attempt that! LOL.
BTW Carsten, I like your signature block! We actually have this hanging on our kitchen wall. LOL. And believe me, there's A LOT of sour Kraut in our house!
Haha, John, like I told you yesterday on the phone, I made 2 lbs of Sauerkraut with Kielbasa and mashed potatoes last night for work ... my colleagues stay FAR away for me for some reason

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