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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-10-2019, 07:48 AM
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There is truth to what you guys are saying. I actually get my tires mounted at John's Honda dealer. That said, my dealer as Harley dealers go is pretty reasonable. He is in the 300ish range for a rear tire mounted. I'm just happy the newer Harley tires are lasting 15k miles. They finally seem to have got the multi-compound tires down.

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.......Harley sells special Harley branded tires that automatically up the price 50%, but it does make your hair look thicker.



The tire I bought from the indy says Harley Davidson on the sidewall......so......exact same tire as the dealer. Dunlop, btw. However, if I'd have known about the thicker hair, I've have definitely paid more at the dealership! I'm pretty thin on top!!
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I get them mounted and balanced from a local for 40 bucks the pair. He has a tire machine in his garage and a balancer.

Support the little guy.

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Most dealers are little guys, including Harley dealers. Once you get to know them the vast majority are just small business owners trying to make it work. The overhead of a recreational vehicle dealership is huge and the audience is both limited and seasonal. I'm not saying owners are poor but they aren't floating around on their new yacht either.

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At a dealer webinar in December, Harley-Davidson revealed that not only can a dealer buy as many as 10 dealerships now (albeit still having to be a top performer), but private equity will also be able to invest in dealerships. That's a significant change, because it means individuals no longer need to be majority owners, and the owner no longer has to be onsite at the dealership. Essentially, Harley-Davidson is encouraging absentee ownership of its shops, though the motorcycle company says it is not trying to adopt the auto dealership owner model. So they may be little guys for now, but not for long.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/...ealership.aspx

But on the thread note enjoy the new tires and keep them on the ground.

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At a dealer webinar in December, Harley-Davidson revealed that not only can a dealer buy as many as 10 dealerships now (albeit still having to be a top performer), but private equity will also be able to invest in dealerships. That's a significant change, because it means individuals no longer need to be majority owners, and the owner no longer has to be onsite at the dealership. Essentially, Harley-Davidson is encouraging absentee ownership of its shops, though the motorcycle company says it is not trying to adopt the auto dealership owner model. So they may be little guys for now, but not for long.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/...ealership.aspx

But on the thread note enjoy the new tires and keep them on the ground.
Edit: I read the article. Hmm, that's a huge gamble that could backfire or maybe the new management is trying to break the Harley of yesterday. With this strategy, it sounds like they are throwing customers at Indian.


I would like to see the source of your information because the MotorCo forced closed a bunch of dealers in the not too distant past. I find it really hard to believe they are working on expanding their footprint in a shrinking market. The last I heard was they are working to make existing dealers successful via increasing each dealership's reach.


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Stealer

Around 1998, I went to a dealer inquiring about a new motorcycle, he priced me a bike $1500-$2500 above MSRP, just because he could. At the time, the demand for his brand of motorcycle was strong, and this dealer (and I feel sure others could too) could get $1500-$2500 over MSRP on a standard model.

Now, when a dealer is willing to rip-off customers due to brand loyalty, and because he can, that is a STEALER! Does the dealership actually expect a purchasing customer to be loyal to his dealership? And return for parts, tires and service? Knowing that if given the opportunity, said dealership will not charge a fair price, said dealership will charge whatever price the dealership feels it can get away with, thus ripping-off a "loyal" customer without a second thought.

I am not saying all motorcycle dealerships are this way, but some dealerships have earned the title "Stealer", and deserve whatever criticism they receive!

And NO! I didn't purchase a bike from this stealer, I ordered a kit bike and built my own!

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Around 1998, I went to a dealer inquiring about a new motorcycle, he priced me a bike $1500-$2500 above MSRP, just because he could. At the time, the demand for his brand of motorcycle was strong, and this dealer (and I feel sure others could too) could get $1500-$2500 over MSRP on a standard model.

Now, when a dealer is willing to rip-off customers due to brand loyalty, and because he can, that is a STEALER! Does the dealership actually expect a purchasing customer to be loyal to his dealership? And return for parts, tires and service? Knowing that if given the opportunity, said dealership will not charge a fair price, said dealership will charge whatever price the dealership feels it can get away with, thus ripping-off a "loyal" customer without a second thought.

I am not saying all motorcycle dealerships are this way, but some dealerships have earned the title "Stealer", and deserve whatever criticism they receive!

And NO! I didn't purchase a bike from this stealer, I ordered a kit bike and built my own!

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Around 1998, I went to a dealer inquiring about a new motorcycle, he priced me a bike $1500-$2500 above MSRP, just because he could. At the time, the demand for his brand of motorcycle was strong, and this dealer (and I feel sure others could too) could get $1500-$2500 over MSRP on a standard model.

Now, when a dealer is willing to rip-off customers due to brand loyalty, and because he can, that is a STEALER! Does the dealership actually expect a purchasing customer to be loyal to his dealership? And return for parts, tires and service? Knowing that if given the opportunity, said dealership will not charge a fair price, said dealership will charge whatever price the dealership feels it can get away with, thus ripping-off a "loyal" customer without a second thought.

I am not saying all motorcycle dealerships are this way, but some dealerships have earned the title "Stealer", and deserve whatever criticism they receive!

And NO! I didn't purchase a bike from this stealer, I ordered a kit bike and built my own!

Charlie
And so? It happens with a lot of products. Good luck getting a Rolex submariner at list price. If demand is outpacing supply...

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Dealer in my area owns 5 dealerships in Ohio....

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