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I'm having a hard time lately trying to understand where the young generation gets their perceptions of entitlement. My neighbors have let yet another hard luck case into the neighborhood. These people can barely cut it on their own and get more government help than anyone I've ever known. Now, another family has moved in with them because they can't cut it. I have actually never been introduced to this couple, nor the last couple (Recently broke in after being kicked out and robbed said neighbors). They know my name and talk to me like we're old friends.
The other night I put my pickup in the street, so I could take a bike out to ride. The young man looks at the truck and asks if that's really my truck "Yes". Can I drive it? "No" Awe, com'on? "No, I don't do things like that". Tonight, his lady (don't know or care of status) was outside when I ran an errand. She says hi, how are you and then tells me, "I really like your truck" As I was telling her it's nothing special, 15 years old, rusting and recently discovered a broken spring mount, her man walks out of the house. She replies, "I don't care, can I drive it"? "No" Then he, who's name I still don't know asks if he can ride one of my bikes. I smiled, though I was really put off by this after telling him he couldn't drive my pickup and I replied that I'm old school and was taught by my dad to never lend anyone a vehicle. When I came back with a pizza, I slipped into the house quickly before someone asked for the pie.
My neighbor on the other side of me has a niece that asked me 2 days ago to buy her a bike because I'm rich and can afford it, but her parents can't. I don't know where they get this perception. I live in the worst looking house in the neighborhood (118 yrs). I can't leave my garage door open or the neighbor kids will beeline for the bikes. If I want to work on them, they're right there with me trying to make a jungle gym out of the bikes. Even worse if I leave them out. If I tell them not to touch the bikes, that's exactly what they do. I wonder how much worse this attitude will get before I die. I'm ready to move to the country.

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Well I live in a rural suburb and the section 8 people here are not much different than what you speak of. When those days I did stop at the local bar for a quick beer and relax before going to the madhouse I call a home. I used to get people I never met nor know of talk with me for all a 5 minutes on something and suddenly ask if I would buy them a drink. I would be shocked at each time it occured. Mind you i am not the type to go for trendy places, I prefer the hole in the wall places that actually has some depth and character than what is the latest fad. However each time I get asked to buy someone I drink I just met I think, "where the **** is your pride dude??!!...have you no shame at all??"


That I think is half the problem these days, there is no shame allowed anymore. We are not permitted to shame those that CAN do for themselves but dont do so. Not allowed to say they can do better and if they wanted a better life to earn it rather than have it handed to them. Not saying there are those that had a bad hand handed to them in the poker game that is life, but when they at least try to better themselves I cant get as upset as those that dont dare to do better and just walk around with their hands out expecting something like what your neighborhood has devolved to.
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I'm a food vendor and deliver to the lesser income parts of town as well as the more well off neighborhoods. I get asked all the time for free food in the lower income neighborhoods. When I explain that I wouldn't make a living by giving food away, they ask for money. I gave a guy $5 one time and the next time I pulled up, 6 people were there waiting for their cut. Last summer a young man approached me and very politely told me it was his birthday and would I have $10 for him to get 2 burritos. I gave him $10 and he went right over to the restaurant. I felt good about doing something nice for someone's birthday. 3 months later, it was his birthday again. He forgot that he had used that statement on me. I told him that I wasn't going to give him anymore money because he lied to me. He was young, extremely polite and capable of working. I told him he should get a job.

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Hey QZephyr, can I ride your 109 ? It's a hard bike to find
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We're living in a world of lowered thresholds, but I have no idea who lowered them.
Much less is expected of people, and apparently many folks expect less out of themselves.

Things that we stood by and believed in, have have all been run over, and and most everything is running amuck.
Up is now down, and wrong is now right.
It's more than ok these days to lie, cheat, steal, and scam. It's become the norm instead of the exception.

The code of human ethics is all but shot, and morals seem to have no place anymore.

I think there once was a time that people were afraid to burn in hell for their misdeeds, but nowadays it seems God has been declared dead or nonexistent; money and greed have taken over the front seat, and are in possession of the steering wheel.

Nothing surprises me much anymore.
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Hey QZephyr, can I ride your 109 ? It's a hard bike to find
Sure, come on over. Just watch for the rusty old truck in the street and the congregation of entitlementists sitting in the front yard.
Btw, I like my neighbors. They're good people but are the product of government programs that we wouldn't need if people would just work. I got in a money pinch over 30 years ago and got a 2nd job until I fixed it. I have since met people, who at the same age that I was when I got the 2nd job, had already filed bankruptcy. I chewed them out and told them that they're part of the problem with this country.
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pretty potent stuff here...real world too...amazed how I see people from all over this world come here to this country, find a job, and make themselves and their family a good life by working hard. Yes...some too also join the ranks like the above mentioned. I'm not one to turn my back to help one willing to help themselves, guess its about having some pride and self respect.

Watched a show recently about the hippies moving to SF back in the 60's. Word caught on you could go there, they'd cloth you, feed you, pretty much take care of you...you didn't have to work...so everyone went...partyed, layed around getting buzzed...forget about making any effort to actually get a job...pretty soon turning into the homeless center of the west coast. City turned into a dump...locals started to realize maybe this idea someone came up with how they could show the country their way was the right way, maybe needed to be retweeked. So...not going to say this problem just started...it just keeps getting worse.
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I remember in the 70's when my mom(single mother, no support) quit work to take care of my grandmother dying of cancer. We had to go on food stamps & it was quite shameful. Growing up without child support, I knew hand-me-downs very well. But that was life.
When my husband retired from the military, he stocked shelves at night waiting for that promised dream job, that never appeared. He had to ask his mom for financial help, hat in hand & it was very hard for him to do so.
After 20 years at another job, he retired again at 60. We moved to FL to be near (less that 2 miles) from his mom. He sees her everyday & takes her where she needs. Can we afford it ? No, not really. His retirement pay doesn't cover living expenses. But we have savings & eventually Social Security. And his mom helps us out, knowing we are sacrificing some things to be here.
Hopefully, I'll get a replacement bike in the spring. It'll be paid for by insurance money & our savings. And we're travelling when we can, while we can. So if you see me on the street corner in 10-15 years, drop a dollar in my hat Maybe govt will support me then....but I'm not holding my breath
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Many people now a days have no dignity. Growing up I was taught to respect all others and respect what they have worked to earn. One phrase I've always remembered , from Dad, " If you want something, work and earn it. You'll take care of it, if your money and sweat is in it."
I taught those same principles to my kids. Some live by it, some don't. People that think that they are entitled to what others have, disgust me, along with the ones that feel everyone else MUST take care and provide for them.
I guess Dad's sayings just continue to echo in my empty head. Also, I'm just to stubborn to change with the times. In the early 90's, the company I worked for shut down. It drove me crazy to file for unemployment. I just couldn't wrap my head around getting paid for not working. I couldn't sleep, my nerves were a wreck. After 2 weeks of spending what I had saved, I got a job and happily got off unemployment.
Just a little rant as I look at people now a days that have no pride, who are able to work but find that work would be a inconvenience to their life.
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I try to simplify things in life because sometimes we just over manage and over engineer life. When I was young and in school, I had a class that a pretty smart kid would give me the answers to the homework in home room...it was great...it was easy...it was also my first little lesson in human psychology....which is....if I can get it for free than why work for it...just show up and get the answers.....well the kid one day said screw it and I got burned...thank goodness my little brain said I can't rely on him and I just needed to do it....yup...kinda sucked...had to work or I would suffer little 10 yr old consequences. 10 yr old turns into 16 and then 35....same old simple concept...again...thank goodness I learned. But these days there seems to be someone from the political or politically correctness crowd that wouldn't want me to "suffer" that lesson...maybe they think its too harsh...not fair....I need some other kind of help rather than my little homework lesson. Again...keeping this all in perspective...I learned at 10 with homework which means I didn't need to learn at 35 with buying something I couldn't afford...I changed my way right there because I needed to.

But here is the kicker, I believe there is an overwhelming majority of people in this great country of ours that would lend out their hand to help our fellow comrades. Its another psychology thing, it makes us feel good and we all like that in some form. It just has to feel right, be right and we want people to truly strive to improve and help themselves with our helping them. But for some reason we try to engineer it for all those political reasons and the good lessons just don't seem to take shape. I know it sounds simple...probably not that simple....but the world would be better if we just worked on the simple things....like they usual are when we are 10.
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