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Old 05-16-2013, 09:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2004 VL800 front turn signal replacement (I'm lost)

Hi everyone,

I'm a long-time reader, just joined the site though. I'm in a bit of a jam with my turn-signals. Basically I had a small run-in with the front end of a car that left me with a snapped stem and shattered lamp. I bought the "EMGO bullet" signal pair that I was told would fit my bike. However, when I removed the headlight the connections are different. There's one bullet-style wire connector, and then a 2-prong style. The EMGO's are 2 wires total, both bullet connectors. Am I at a loss here or is there a way to do this? Between that, the blown fuse, dent in my gas tank, tons of scuffs, and a few more annoyances I'm ready to pull my hair out.

Thanks a lot!

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Old 05-16-2013, 09:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Return them, and buy a used signal off e-bay or something. With the EMGO's as 2 wire you would not have front running lights. So IMO not worth the hassle.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just some info I've gathered over the years...

There are multiple types of turn signals/running lights some can only be used for one function (turn OR running) others can be used for both functions.

1 wire - one function only - running light OR turn signal
Connections:
  • Connect the one wire to the brown wire on the bike for running light, the light green for Right turn, Black for left turn
    The negative (ground) is made through the mounting bolt, these lights won't work until you connect the bolt to a metal part on the bike.
2 wire - one function only - running light OR turn signal
Connections:
  • Connect the positive wire on the signal to the brown wire on the bike for running light, the light green for right turn, black for left turn.
    Connect the negative wire on the signal to the black wire with white stripe
2 wire - two function - running light AND turn signal
Connections:
  • Connect one of the positive wires on the signal to the brown wire on the bike for running light
    Connect the other positive wire on the signal to the light green on the bike for right turn, black for left turn.
    The negative (ground) is made through the mounting bolt, these lights won't work until you connect the bolt a metal part on the bike.
    If when you test the running light is brighter than the turn signal swap the two positive wires
3 wire - two function - running light AND turn signal
Connections:
  • Connect one of the positive wires on the signal to the brown wire on the bike for running light
    Connect the other positive wire on the signal to the light green for Right turn, Black for left turn.
    Connect the negative wire to the black with white stripe on the bike.
    If when you test the running light is brighter than the turn signal swap the two positive wires
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Thanks for the info guys, I'm still new at this. So what you're telling me is, clip the wire connector on the bike that has a little boxy type of adapter and 2 slots for a plug in it and just wire one of those (black or black+white) to the negative on the turn signal and then just plug the bullet connector into the one that's already there for it?

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Please dont cut the wiring harness on your bike. Put the correct turn signal on it.
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If you feel you absolutely need to use this signal, I agree with 03volusiarider. Please do NOT cut up your wiring harness. If you want to cut anything, cut the plug from the busted signal and splice the wiring to that plug, so that the harness on the bike stays in one piece.

I also think you really should return the signals and get a set that does match the wiring for your bike though.
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Good point. My next question is then, is the wiring on the front signal the same as on the rear? I could swap perhaps and try to fabricate a stem
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Doubt it. Only the front stay on all the time
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Good point. My next question is then, is the wiring on the front signal the same as on the rear? I could swap perhaps and try to fabricate a stem
The rear signal only has one plug, while the front one has two. I think the connector is the same as the square-ish one with the clip on the front, but admittedly I don't know if you could just plug that one in and leave the other wire just hanging. Anybody?

I do agree with trying to keep the same connectors, however. I've always been scared of the ubiquitous eBay replacement signals just for the simple fact of the wiring issue!
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Which side of the front signal did you break? Maybe someone here can find you an OEM signal.
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