Analyst Predicts Indian Will Outsell Victory in 2014
Do you think this is the start of the end of Victory?
Do you think this is the start of the end of Victory?
Analyst Predicts Indian Will Outsell Victory in 2014
Do you think this is the start of the end of Victory?
Well, it is possible the US government could decide to bail out Victory from chapter 11 if need be like they did with that other brand that stays with massive tariffs against the foreign competition again.They come and they go. Only 1 brand stays.
Agreed. I like the looks of victory, so I bought one. I like the looks of Indian too, but that isn't my style. Harley doesn't appeal to me. Can't get past the looks. Nothing flows right on the majority of them. That still won't stop me from test riding one. Victory isn't going anywhere. There was the same discussion on the victory forums. Pent up demand and the scout was probably the reason for the high sales compared to victory.I feel Indian and Victory sell to different markets.
Analyst Predicts Indian Will Outsell Victory in 2014
Do you think this is the start of the end of Victory?
The fact that the Boulevard is a cruiser doesn't make it a clone. A clone would be the same whereas the Boulevard is a more advanced design at a lower price. With the weight of the bike disc brakes don't really matter and are a concession to the price point.Somehow, most seem to forget that the beloved Boulevard is an inexpensive clone of the American Cruiser. So to deride the originals while loving the clone seems a little silly. In decades to come people will still be searching and paying good money for the original when the clones are recycled into plastic bins and garbage cans. Of course, there will be some who will get their panties in an uproar over that comment, I'm not saying the Boulevard is a bad motorcycle, it's just not to the quality level or the allure of even the maligned Sportster. All one has to do is look at the resale to grasp that. And even Sportsters have had front and rear disc breaks and offered ABS 9 years ago.
This.The "original American motorcycle brand" went out of business in 1953. The only thing today's Indian Motorcycle has in common with "the original American motorcycle brand" are the letters on the tank that spell "Indian". The rest of it is a good motorcycle built by a snowmobile company.
I note again that in any discussion about motorcycles, some of you still use Harley as the standard for comparison. It's quite a compliment to their success. :wayhappy:First some quick history: By 1931, only three US manufacturers had survived the great depression so far: Indian, which produced its first motorcycle in 1902, Harley-Davidson (built its first motorcycle in 1903 in a shed in Milwaukee 1905), and Excelsior-Henderson (first bike in 1905). However, EH foresaw the continuing depression and stopped producing on March 31, 1931. Indian fought longer but sales continued to decline; it was forced to halt production in 1953. Only Harley-Davidson kept continuous operations. During that process it became one of the strongest brands on the planet and a darling of Wall-Street in the 90s.
During those go-go late 1990s, the Indian and EH brands were bought by investors and resurrected, but only a small number of motorcycles were produced. (EH went bankrupt again in 1999 after capacity over-investment.) In 1998, Polaris introduced “Victory® motorcycles, representing the first all-new American-made motorcycle from a major company in nearly 60 years.” Today, 13 years after introduction, Victory’s market share remains in the low single digits. Harley-Davidson remains the leader by far.
Blech......but if that is what I wanted I could have walked into any dealer in the nation and picked up a brand new two year old floor modle and saved thousands. Now doesn't THAT exude confidence.You could have this one.
btw, the Orient is a sweet looking bike.Charles H. Metz is credited with being the first to coin the term "motor cycle," first used in an 1899 advertisement for the upcoming Orient. Waltham Manufacturing's 1900 Orient Light Roadster and "Orient-Aster" were America's first mass-production motor driven cycles, which were also known simply as the "Orient Motorcycle."
Metz first introduced his creation to the world in July 1900, at the Charles River Race Track in Boston, marking the first recorded motorcycle speed event in the United States. The Orient set a track time of 7 minutes over a five mile course.
Not sure of the point. Maybe the 2015 Harleys have everything in common with their 1906 model?Today's Indian motorcycle has about as much connection with the 1903 Indian motorcycle company as my neighbor's Bayliner has with Noah's ark.
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