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Old 04-23-2011, 01:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've ridden older Americas. 2011 marked some changes. I rode the similar speedmaster? The solo version, yesterday. In the rain.

So today Ms. G and I took off on the VL800 (running fabulous with Dynajet tweaking) to the dealer in Knoxville.

The 2011 America has the controls pulled back a little from their previous way forward position. I like. And a larger front tire. Maybe I like, I'd have to compare.

Overall, they're the same sorts of bike, wheelbase, geometry, weight about in the same ballpark.

The America simply rides great. It's an Americanized Brit bike. Moderate reving, moderate torque, moderate HP, chain drive, old school suspension. Transmission works great, nice crisp throttle response, smooth but not soft ride. Two up, plenty of power, likes to rev up, steady and smooth into corners, very comfortable. I was impressed. Keep the rpm up, don't lug, use the gears, look through corners and lean effortlessly. Very nice with only a faint bit of bar buzz on the Interstate.

We like. Very much. I could easily envision with hard bags, trunk, batwing, highway bars. Intuitive.

Back on the VL800, whole different experience. low end torque, wide power band, not as zippy, but very solid feeling, takes more push to get into the corners, not as smooth. All together a more rugged, gutsy ride. I like that, too.

But I really like the Bonneville better.

Educational test ride.
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Was wondering about the 2.
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ADD for me?
God I love my 07 C50 - every time I ride it, it amazes me, even more so with the Mustang seat I think you recommended (my wife is thrilled too) but I read the glowing reviews of America and want to take a ride one day to the dealer, just to check it out.
I think Motorcycle Cruiser reviewed 3 of their models, could have been other mags I get too.
Man, they really like the new Triumphs.
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After putting 40k miles on my '04 Vol I was ready to replace it with something about the same size and price range. I knew the improvements on the C50, but wanted better brakes and performance. I'd been riding the Vol solo with a fender rack and likes the swept look.

It all came down to the Triumph Speedmaster and the Kawasaki Vulcan 900 custom. The Triumph folks weren't interested in taking a trade so I got the Vulcan. I've been happy with the Vulcan, but still wonder if things had been different.
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Thanks for the post. I haven't taken the chance to test ride any of the triumphs, but I'm pretty sure I'll be going to one next, but I've got my eye on the t-bird. I've been blown away by the looks of both the 2011 America and Speedmaster, but I want something heavier with more power.
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If the America or the Speedmaster had an 1100cc engine, one of them would be sitting in my stable.

Beautiful bikes.
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Looks like the 2011 Triumph is priced a little better than the 2011 C50, too. Wonder what the dealers are actually getting for them?
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The Triumph engines are rev-happy little beasts. A lot pf people don't know what to make of the America and the SpeedMaster because we live in a world of V-twin cruisers. We expect cruisers to make a lot of power down low and get really buzzy at the top. The Triumph motors are just the opposite. They produce the most torque and horsepower towards the top of the RPM range. It takes some getting used to for the cruiser crowd.....

I downright love what the boys at Hinckley are doing with these bikes. They're definitely bucking the trend of look alike (and sound alike) cruisers....
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If the America or the Speedmaster had an 1100cc engine, one of them would be sitting in my stable.

Beautiful bikes.
With your long legs you wouldn't have any problem with the side stand. They are about 6" fwd of the usual position. FlyingJLady liked the Speedmaster too, when she sold her crotchrocket, but couldn't work the stand with her short legs.
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FWIW,

My brother in UK had a Bonneville, and switched to an ST1300, now after about a year and a half, he's going back to Triumph with no regrets.
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