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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-10-2017, 08:39 AM Thread Starter
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Alternate Air Filters for Volusia and C50

Yes the Volusia & C50 factory air filter assemblies COST WAY TOO MUCH money!
Following some advice found here on another post... turn your 800 football shaped OR C50 tear drop shape filter housing over so filter is on the bottom side, haning over the work bench and smack the round filter housing several times and several more if that doesn't work to crack out the factory hard glue holding the filter in place.
YES this takes some grunt work and perhaps some chiseling out w/a screw driver any of the old glue left still stuck to the plastic base!
While the other post shows cutting the base of the $20 Mr Gasket Deep Dish Chrome Air Filter assembly #4354, 4"x2" apart and using this bracket the bracket will cause too much turbulence in the path of the air and covers approx 50% of the throat.
Using a high quality silicone (NOT the kitchen and bathroom stuff) run a moderate flat bead of silicone around the top and bottom of the 4" Mr Gasket air filter and "glue" the filter to the base and the chrome lid to the top.
Let CURE OVERNIGHT!
Yes this assembly will pull apart when you wish to change the $6 filter.... Cheap YES! But TOO SHORT!
Works very well wo any noticeable performance changes BUT the bike will sound a little louder if you have modified your exhaust in any way. I drilled 6, 3/8 holes around my baffles... fairly quiet at idle and just off throttle but nail it and it's freaking loud! And "barky"... I now have 1,000 miles on this set up...
HOWEVER there is always room for improvement.
The one problem with the 4"x2" Mr Gasket air filter is that the 2" H is TOO SHORT for the built in factory air horn found molded into the base of the football or tear drop plastic housing... and about 30% smaller than the factory air filter!
NOTE Air Horns are designed to straighten out and speed up (venturi effect) the air to make it enter the intake manifold more efficiently and and at a higher speed making the whole fuel air atomization process and hence the burning of the fuel air mixture MORE efficient ie bigger bang! More HP!
As the factory air filter is 4.75" x 2.75" H these other filters are a better choice.
OPTIONS:
Best Buy WIX 49742 Heavy Duty Air Filter 4.17"x 2.75H with a Top! WINNER! $12 on eBay. Cut the Rubber Mounting Flange off so it sits in and around the plastic base and Air Horn. Glue in place with silicone! Let's face it rubber glues to plastic with silicone better than steel housing filters (Mr Gasket and Solberg) and plastic!
Solberg 842 (paper) $12 and 843 (washable polyester) $18 are 3.88" x 2.75" WITHOUT a top BUT I found that many common Tupperware type plastic food container lids ARE 4" in Diameter and fit as well as the Mr Gasket Chrome lid, that is slightly bigger than the 4" air filter, gluing them in place with silicone! The 843 is a industrial air filter spec'ed for Volvo earth mover loader CAT type machines.
KN RU-2640 4"x 3" H with a Top! 3"H should just fit (I have not tried this one) and cut the Universal Rubber Mounting Flange out of the bottom to fit around the Air Horn. $52
KN RU-2740 4.5"x 2.5" Cone shaped with a top! Again cut the Universal Rubber Mounting Flange out of the bottom and use silicone to glue in place. $38
So there you are! OPTIONS to the Crazy $54 factory paper air filter and base!
Happy riding!
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So, you spent how much time, trying to save a few bucks, on something that gets replaced every 3 to 5 years, depending on how much you ride. Other than the satisfaction of reinventing what already exists for the bike, what did you gain? Have you done any filtration testing with the new setup? Does it have a 99% single pass efficiency like the oem? Does it filter anything at all? I mean, I am all for a little back yard engineering when it is needed, but cutting and gluing filter materials to fit?
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So, you spent how much time, trying to save a few bucks, on something that gets replaced every 3 to 5 years, depending on how much you ride. Other than the satisfaction of reinventing what already exists for the bike, what did you gain? Have you done any filtration testing with the new setup? Does it have a 99% single pass efficiency like the oem? Does it filter anything at all? I mean, I am all for a little back yard engineering when it is needed, but cutting and gluing filter materials to fit?
There's always one in the crowd and I guess you're it for today...
You need to read for COMPREHENSION...
These are AIR FILTERS they ARE designed to Filter AIR!
Remove the FLANGE... it's the round smaller diameter rubber fitting that goes over the air horn of the intake or carb... oh forget it...
If you'd like to figure out the spec look them up...! Let me help you... Paper elements 8-12 microns (Solberg 843 down to 5 Microns)
The much loved K&N 120 microns and frankly just junk... but hey go with the marketing and not the science!
If you'd like to go up against a computer scientist, multiple patent holder, a neural scientist and a dyno w air flow tests please let me know... I'll send you in the right direction...
And yes some us RIDE all the time and keep our machines in top notch condition so we replace filters often. NOT every 3-5 years as you suggest... I see you are riding a bicycle.. this is a "motorcycle" forum... are you in the right place?
Even more of us are looking for better performance although I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of following the flock to K&N as they have many issues themselves however these are listed as OPTIONS!
In the mean time please keep your inexperienced low brow comments to yourself...
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Oh, good. You are not a fan of K&N either.

You are aware that the service interval for the air filter is replacement every 12, 000 miles, right? At all other service intervals, it is inspect and blow clean if necessary. So you broke your stock filter and cobbled together a non standard, Tupperware and hot glue concoction to save $16.
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Oh. And if you shop around, you can pick up an Oem for around $42, so your total savings with this grand experiment is only $4. Like I said before, not worth the time.
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Lets see now, ...

I ride daily, 100 miles or more. I'm on my fourth filter for my 2013 C50T, and about to change it again. I change it every 12-15,000 miles (about every 3th or 4th oil change). Still looking for a replacement that is cheaper than the stock one. Don't like the K&N. Can't seem to find another aftermarket manufacturer that has one for the bike.

On ebay I found the first replacement at $42. The last two I purchased, I got lucky and found them at a garage sale @ $15ea. (the guy just sold his M50) Still too expensive if you ask me, when you replace them per maintenance at every 18k miles. I've ridden over 60k on the bike in 3 years and will do another 20k this year.

That will be 5 filters @ OEM pricing of $42ea = $210, just in air filter.

I spent an afternoon at Pepboys, Orielly's and Autozone, looking at all the different panel filters trying to find anything that would fit in the rectangle space of the stock filter frame. No luck. I did find a hepa filter from a hoover vacuum that was close, but it needed to be trimmed 1/2 inch to fit. It filtered too much and clogged to quickly. I'm still looking though.

The stock OEM filter element for my 2013 C50T, looks to be a felt/paper filter glued into the mounting bracket, with the following dimensions, ...

5.123 length x 3.620 width x 1.200 depth

I found a site that will sell a custom pleated filter that is close to the size needed, with a merv 8 to 13 rating that should be good for my bully. A merv 8, 4 5/8 x 5 5/8 x 1 1/4 pleated paper filter with metal backing, 6-pack is under $15. I'm going to order it for testing. Then trim to fit in the OEM filter frame and use some "Flexseal" liquid to make one that will slide and seal into the frame.

For those that ride a few thousand miles a year, the cost doesn't matter, but for those of us that ride our bullys daily, it does add up. Oil, oil filters, air filters, clutch, brake shoes/pads, tires. I have well over a thousand dollars just in maintenance supplies, not to mention the labor costs that I have paid for.

Thanks Git_t_up, nice to see someone else is also looking for a better/more cost-effective alternatives for those of us that ride daily.



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I used the K&N for years. Lifetime filter. Use it, clean it, use it, clean it... Pay once. I could clean it every day if I wanted to and not pay another dime from purchase. Doesn't matter if it does or does not filter more or less. Triple negative ? Ooops...


As a daily rider counting 12-15,000 miles per year, I didn't want a throw away filter. I feel that a properly oiled K&N filter traps more than enough particles.


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I had a similar issue with my air cleaner housing; the tabs broke due to heating/cooling cycles. A quick check on eBay netted a 2005 housing for $45. The hardware is all there, and the only difference is that there is a provision for a MAF sensor, where my 2004 doesn't have one.
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