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Old 11-19-2012, 02:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Fiberglass will likely work but, the fenders aren't made of fiberglass....They're made out of plastic so why not use plastic weld?

https://www.acklandsgrainger.com/AGI..._code=DSSXPSA1
For me, I know fiberglass works, just as it does on metal car fenders.
There are many different kinds of plastic and you have to make sure you have the correct type of adhesive for the plastic. Heck, super glue is still out there, so it must work, I just haven't found out on what ............ except my fingers .
Fiberglass doesn't seem to care what is being used for.
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Fiberglass will likely work but, the fenders aren't made of fiberglass....They're made out of plastic so why not use plastic weld?

https://www.acklandsgrainger.com/AGI..._code=DSSXPSA1
I'm not familiar with the product in the link but plastic welds generally melt each surface to another to make the bond. Unlike wood glue for example they don't bond by gripping, they primarily create a bond by melting the two surfaces one to another. They are often specific to a type of plastic(s). I don't know what kind of plastic the fenders are made of but it appears they are some sort of ABS and the glue did what it was supposed to do and melted it. You can buy ABS glue in a plastic bottle so it obviously doesn't react with all plastics but looking at the reaction it would appear the fenders are ABS or some sort of ABS plastic.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The plastic weld link I posted is the identical stuff I used on my fender. This product was suggested to me by an auto body tech friend of mine......Fiberglass resins and the plastic weld both use a two part formula to make the product "kick" to a hardened state quickly.....ABS glue does not.

You have to be very careful with fiberglass resin because it can melt most plastics.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:45 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I see. The ABS glue I'm most familiar with is used to glue black ABS plumbing pipe together and you are right, it's not a 2 part formula but it is a solvent type of glue that causes the joining surfaces to melt or weld together. I can only speculate on what type of glue the OP used, or what the fender is made of, but from his description it appears that the particular glue that was used did softened the plastic much like I've seen with ABS glue on ABS pipe. Bottom line is I don't think it was the sun that caused the blemish.
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I see. The ABS glue I'm most familiar with is used to glue black ABS plumbing pipe together and you are right, it's not a 2 part formula but it is a solvent type of glue that causes the joining surfaces to melt or weld together. I can only speculate on what type of glue the OP used, or what the fender is made of, but from his description it appears that the particular glue that was used did softened the plastic much like I've seen with ABS glue on ABS pipe. Bottom line is I don't think it was the sun that caused the blemish.
Yup, 773 ABS cement used for plastic plumbing... http://www.volusiariders.com/attachm...d-imag0794.jpg

This does expand and soften just by being out in the sun. I even noticed it softening-up when I was sanding it down. Right now my bike is in the garage, and it's as hard as cement. Parked the bike out in the sun, and it softens and expands. It hardens up to room temp, I guess this stuff was engineered for plastic plumbing only.
Right now I'm going to leave it as it is...I have an idea what to use to cover that part of the fender. Stay tuned...
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Funny you say that gkeefer. That's what I did on mine
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