Which darkside tire/ size & brand? - Suzuki Volusia Forums : Intruder Volusia and Boulevard Forum

Terry1013 · 12-02-2007, 11:32 AM

Alright, I installed the Avon Venom X WWW because I couldn't figure out which Auto tire would fit. I took the rear tire to them and it still cost 233.00. My style of riding, mostly highway would be just fine "I believe" for the car tire. I researched and found a lot of debate but no specifics. So can someone please point me to the right tire. I want the widest I can get on the rear. But more important I just need to know the size that'll work.

Brand
Size

Thanks all for replies.

cougar · 12-03-2007, 05:32 PM

OK, I'm sure that I'm not the only one that will say this, but:

DO NOT PUT CAR TYRES ON MOTORCYCLES!

If you do you risk doing serious damage to both yourself and your bike. Car tyres are not designed for leaning, which is how we turn a bike.

Terry1013 · 12-03-2007, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cougar

OK, I'm sure that I'm not the only one that will say this, but:

DO NOT PUT CAR TYRES ON MOTORCYCLES!

If you do you risk doing serious damage to both yourself and your bike. Car tyres are not designed for leaning, which is how we turn a bike.

Cougar, thanks for your "opinion" but no thanks.... This is not a thread to debate the safety of this issue, it is a question that I need to ask. I know some of the members here use them and I'd really like to try it myself. Do you ride with or without a helmet? Should I ride with one because you feel its unsafe for me to ride without one? Its your decision, you're an adult, I'll not try to browbeat you for it, I respect your decision to do what you want........... get it?
For those members that use the "darkside" tire I'd really like to hear from you still. Thanks

CycleBiker · 12-03-2007, 06:13 PM

Motorcycle rim sizes are measured differently from automoble rim sizes.

If you want to run automobile tires on a motorcycle then you have to change the rims also. This is done quite often with sidecar outfits.

meldooby · 12-03-2007, 06:17 PM

PM Frmrpat, he has one on a VS1400 and they run the same size
as the VL800

Jendesigner · 12-03-2007, 06:19 PM

I did a search on the site and several threads came up. Here is just one. I don't remember anyone on the site that has done it yet but there may be. Someone will know. I do know a lot of people have added a 200 tire but it is for the bike not a car tire.

http://www.volusiariders.com/viewtop...light=car+tire

Grambo · 12-03-2007, 09:05 PM

I was lurking on a VTX forum. They have a whole section dedicated to
THE DARK SIDE. It looks pretty easy to put a car tire on a motorcycle rim but the rim needs to be able to accomadate a tubless tire. What type of car tire? Well one gut used a winter tire- I think it was a Blizzak. All you need is the correct rim size. You also have to find a car tire with approxamatly the same outside diameter. I think the outside diameter on the Volusia/C-50 is 26 inches. Also most of the VTX riders who have converted say there bikes still corner well. Good luck. Let us know how it goes on the DARK SIDE.

CycleBiker · 12-03-2007, 09:24 PM

This info from a sidecar site:

5. SIDECARS: Sometimes sidecar folks will use a rear wheel on the front. If you do so, and the tire has a directional arrow, do REVERSE the tire, so the direction arrow is in the wrong direction of travel. For sidecarists, 16 inch rims CAN be used for passenger car tires OR motorcycle tires (if rim width is proper), but do NOT use a 15 inch m/c tire on a 15 inch car rim, nor 15 inch car tire on a 15 inch motorcycle rated rim. You MAY be able to do it if a rim is skimmed on a lathe....HEED THIS WARNING!!! The 15 inch car tires and 15 inch motorcycle rims are NOT the same diameter!!!

gkeefer · 12-04-2007, 12:26 AM

Saw a guy once with one of those small auto spare tires mounted on his bike. ITS A DEATH TRAP. NOT ME!!!!!!

**Mr. Efficiency** · 12-04-2007, 12:35 AM

I guess I'll approach it from a different tack. Why put a car tire on a bike (unless its a sidecar, but I use Metzeler Block K sidecar tires on my hack.) Anyway, I guess that's the question. Why go to all that inconvenience...

It certainly won't save you any dough in the long run. Is there some benefit to not having tread on the sides for turning? Is it supposed to last longer? Do young girls like it more?

12-02-2007, 11:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
Terry1013 VR Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Casstown Ohio Posts: 172 Thanks: 0 Thanked 58 Times in 4 Posts	Which darkside tire/ size & brand? Alright, I installed the Avon Venom X WWW because I couldn't figure out which Auto tire would fit. I took the rear tire to them and it still cost 233.00. My style of riding, mostly highway would be just fine "I believe" for the car tire. I researched and found a lot of debate but no specifics. So can someone please point me to the right tire. I want the widest I can get on the rear. But more important I just need to know the size that'll work. Brand Size Thanks all for replies.

12-03-2007, 06:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
meldooby Senior VR Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MS Gautier Posts: 1,106 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	PM Frmrpat, he has one on a VS1400 and they run the same size as the VL800 __________________ Naked Jugs Rock!! 2004 Volusia

12-03-2007, 06:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jendesigner Senior VR Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: IL, Western 'burbs Chicago Posts: 5,774 Thanks: 5 Thanked 479 Times in 415 Posts	I did a search on the site and several threads came up. Here is just one. I don't remember anyone on the site that has done it yet but there may be. Someone will know. I do know a lot of people have added a 200 tire but it is for the bike not a car tire. http://www.volusiariders.com/viewtop...light=car+tire __________________ Jen / "All leather, no lace" 2000 Nomad 1500 \| 2003 Volusia Bike Pics: http://www.volusiariders.com/members...ndesigner.html

12-03-2007, 09:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Grambo VR Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Napanee ON Posts: 231 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	I was lurking on a VTX forum. They have a whole section dedicated to THE DARK SIDE. It looks pretty easy to put a car tire on a motorcycle rim but the rim needs to be able to accomadate a tubless tire. What type of car tire? Well one gut used a winter tire- I think it was a Blizzak. All you need is the correct rim size. You also have to find a car tire with approxamatly the same outside diameter. I think the outside diameter on the Volusia/C-50 is 26 inches. Also most of the VTX riders who have converted say there bikes still corner well. Good luck. Let us know how it goes on the DARK SIDE. __________________ LIVE FREE OR DIE - NH

12-04-2007, 12:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mr. Efficiency Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Rock and Roll Capital Posts: 22,116 Thanks: 69 Thanked 641 Times in 493 Posts	I guess I'll approach it from a different tack. Why put a car tire on a bike (unless its a sidecar, but I use Metzeler Block K sidecar tires on my hack.) Anyway, I guess that's the question. Why go to all that inconvenience... It certainly won't save you any dough in the long run. Is there some benefit to not having tread on the sides for turning? Is it supposed to last longer? Do young girls like it more? __________________ "faster, faster.... Until the thrill of speed overwhelms the fear of death. Man of Mystery... Get it, real funny... Mr. E., Genius No No No... Mr. E, Super Genius

12-03-2007, 05:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
cougar VR Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tweed Heads, Australia Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK, I'm sure that I'm not the only one that will say this, but: DO NOT PUT CAR TYRES ON MOTORCYCLES! If you do you risk doing serious damage to both yourself and your bike. Car tyres are not designed for leaning, which is how we turn a bike.

12-03-2007, 06:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
CycleBiker Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,012 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Motorcycle rim sizes are measured differently from automoble rim sizes. If you want to run automobile tires on a motorcycle then you have to change the rims also. This is done quite often with sidecar outfits.

12-03-2007, 09:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
CycleBiker Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,012 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	This info from a sidecar site: 5. SIDECARS: Sometimes sidecar folks will use a rear wheel on the front. If you do so, and the tire has a directional arrow, do REVERSE the tire, so the direction arrow is in the wrong direction of travel. For sidecarists, 16 inch rims CAN be used for passenger car tires OR motorcycle tires (if rim width is proper), but do NOT use a 15 inch m/c tire on a 15 inch car rim, nor 15 inch car tire on a 15 inch motorcycle rated rim. You MAY be able to do it if a rim is skimmed on a lathe....HEED THIS WARNING!!! The 15 inch car tires and 15 inch motorcycle rims are NOT the same diameter!!!

12-04-2007, 12:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
gkeefer Senior VR Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Horse Shoe Bend, Arkansas. Posts: 2,059 Thanks: 1 Thanked 132 Times in 126 Posts	Saw a guy once with one of those small auto spare tires mounted on his bike. ITS A DEATH TRAP. NOT ME!!!!!!

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